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Show HN: Full Help – Self-hosted help desk and knowledge base software
- fullhelp 7y agoRe-post as suggested by a moderator due to problem with account and post visibility. I'm Gerardo, a web developer based in Puerto Rico. Full Help is a self-hosted help desk and multi-knowledge base software created for small businesses and freelancers. The backstory: I was using Help Scout and Zoho Desk before considering creating something like Full Help. Both services are excellent, the problem with Zoho Desk is that it is more focused on large businesses, with complex requirements. I gave a try to Help Scout, and I was impressed. It was simple and perfect for companies of all sizes. My main issue with Help Scout was the pricing and the limitations of each plan, especially on the lower ones. It was expensive (and still is for me). Another problem for me with Help Scout was the lack of customizability on the docs sites. The only way I was able to customize the look and feel of the knowledge base sites was through custom CSS and JavaScript. I wanted to get my hands dirty with my own HTML and site structure, but that wasn't possible at that moment (and still isn't I think). I then started considering creating my own help desk, something small (yeah right); something that could give me the flexibility I wanted and at the same time, lower the costs. I started working on a knowledge base management system in my free time that allowed me to create several knowledge base sites that I needed for multiple projects and products. I finished it in two months or so, can't remember exactly. It worked and got the job done. I was using a regular email account for customer conversations and the knowledge base system for customer documentation, etc. I was missing the integration I had between the knowledge base content and customer conversations. With Zoho Desk and Help Scout, I was able to quickly search the docs and insert a link into the email/chat message, along with other useful features. Also, I was considering selling it as a hosted service at that time, and for me, the knowledge base system alone wasn't enough for a commercial business app. Then started the second stage, creating a "simple" communication management system. Something that could receive and send emails and could be integrated with the knowledge bases. I started working on it by first designing a flexible and scalable database structure for the conversations feature. I wanted something that could allow the possibility of adding other conversations channels in the future. The conversations section was finished, and everything was working as I initially wanted. It was receiving and sending emails (powered by Mailgun), and I had the integration between conversations and help content. Good! Remember when I said, "something that could receive and send emails"? The other guys had live chats, something trendy these days. It wasn't smart to release a cloud help desk solution without live chat support, right? I added the live chat and while I was on it, developed a widget where customers could chat with support agents, and browse the knowledge base content from within the same widget, without leaving the main website. But, wait! This is a cloud business solution, we need teams! I rolled a full team feature with role-based permissions and an invitation system. (currently, only "Account owner" role is present on the software; more roles coming soon!). In conclusion, the small knowledge base system turned out into a big application with lots of useful features created to provide a full help desk software that's focused on small businesses and freelancers. There are lots of other useful features planned, like more conversations channels, Single Sign-On, Integration with third-parties, and many more. The software is a single page application. The UI is powered by a versioned Restful API. The API can be used for integrating the help desk with existing software, without hacking the core. About the codebase: It was developed with Laravel 5.7 using the Test Driven Development approach (Can't live without unit and integration tests!). The codebase follows today's standards. I'm a fan of thin controllers and thin models, so the logic is mostly split between service classes, presenters, and models (when necessary). Anyone that understands the Laravel framework will be comfortable working with the code. As I've mentioned before, my initial plans for Full Help was to launch a small cloud-based help desk service, mainly focused on Puerto Rico and other Latin countries. I decided to release it as a self-hosted solution because of the lack of good options along with the cloud space being crowded. Regarding the distribution/sale method: I opted to go with a custom made checkout system mainly because of the flexibility and better brand integration/control. There's also an affiliate program which is currently private, with plans on opening it to the public in the future. The checkout requires an account registration (which some people don't like, unfortunately). This is for better license management (like renewals) and to give the user access to all his orders and invoices. I have plans on adding an app store (not anytime soon) where the user can purchase knowledge base themes and other extensions or services. What are your thoughts, comments or suggestions? Any feedback regarding the software itself, landing page, pricing or anything is much appreciated. Thanks for your time!
- vbsteven 7y agoVery Nice! Congrats on launching. I'm definitely checking this out soon for support in my freelance gigs. I like the pricing model, I'm intending to do something similar with my next product. Selfhosted, pay once, use forever, optionally renew after 1 year for updates. I wish more software was like this. Only I'm also adding a SaaS option for people that don't want to bother with hosting. You seem to have written the licensing/checkout/renewal yourself. How much time did you spend on it? I'm working on solving exactly this problem with my product and I would love to have a chat about your experience/problems regarding this.
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you! It's a good pricing model which benefits both ends. A SaaS option for people that don't want to bother with technical stuff is a good idea. I've created the checkout/licensing and renewal myself because of the flexibility and not depending on other external companies. The licensing system is quite simple, the software doesn't ask for license verification at the moment. The system will allow the downloads based on the license the user selects. The license system is integrated with BitBucket. On each release BitBucket sends a POST request to a secure endpoint with a prepared ZIP file containing the app files. On each release, a new entry is created on the licensing system indicating the version and other details. Licenses are tied to the major release version number (e.g., "1" in v1.2.0). When v2.0.0 is released, new licenses are tied to the v2. Users will only have access to minor and patches releases until a renewal is made. That's a brief description of how the system works. For the checkout, I've created two Laravel packages (currently private) for sale statements (quotes, orders, invoices, etc) and another package for the affiliate program. I'll be releasing them with MIT license on GitHub. Sure! Feel free to send me a PM on Twitter @gerardojbaez or an email to g[at]gerardobaez.com. I'll be happy to help.
- arcdigital 7y agoI see you even built in a coupon system. Any chance you have a coupon for us on HN? :)
- 0XAFFE 7y agoLooks nice, maybe you can add an existing account to your demo-system, so that I do not need to register myself an account. Edit: And maybe point out, that the Documentation (https://docs.fullhelp.com/ https://docs.fullhelp.com/) is actually the software you are presenting. I did not realize that immediately.
- fullhelp 7y agoHey! You are right, a demo account will be great! I'll be working on it, thanks!
- repeek 7y agoVery cool. We are current HelpScout customers -- my biggest complaint with HelpScout is our inability to properly gate our knowledge base behind our application's authentication -- the only choices are private (must have HelpScout account to access) or public URL. I could see this being a viable alternative, but it appears to be missing a key feature for us, analytics. As an B2B SaaS app, we have support SLAs that mandate specific response times. HelpScout makes it easy for us to report response times. We can also tag support themes to help focus product development; being able to see metrics around theme frequency is very important. Analytics also tell us which Knowledge Base articles are most popular as well as phrases users search so we can be sure we surface the correct article.
- fullhelp 7y agoHi! I agree. Analytics is something that will surely be added, along with SLA management which is also missing. Knowledgebase sites have basic analytics which tells you how many visits, session and what are the popular articles, collections, and categories, but nothing more at the moment. Thanks for checking it out and your feedback!
- _1tan 7y agoMy current employer is currently using a self-hosted instance of Zammad.org. Might be interesting to compare the two.
- fullhelp 7y agoZammad.org looks great! It seems to be missing knowledge base portals based on another comment. However, it looks a good solution.
- tmikaeld 7y agoI really like the Knowledgebase feature, which is currently missing from our Zammad setup (also open source helpdesk). I'm guessing it's based on PHP/SQL since you mention Wordpress? What are your roadmap for the software? I think a demo would bring a lot more sales.
- fullhelp 7y agoHey! Yes, it's based on PHP/MySql (Laravel 5.7 to be precise). For the roadmap, the goal is to provide a complete self-hosted help desk solution. A complete alternative to existing cloud-based offerings. In terms of development, there are many things still on the Trello board. Things like Single Sign-On, Metrics, Integration with third-party apps like Trello, Stripe, PayPal (for conversation context), enhancements to the live chat, etc. Thanks for checking it out! Edit: you can checkout the demo here: https://demo.fullhelp.com/en/register https://demo.fullhelp.com/en/register
- zelon88 7y agoI use HESK for this purpose.
- zaroth 7y agoVery nice launch. I probably will buy this in the next week or two to power a product I will be launching myself soon. The non-recurring pricing model makes it almost too cheap, but it’s right in the sweet spot of pulling out the corporate card and not even thinking about it. $129 is cheap enough for the all but the tiniest projects. I do like the simplicity of a single price point with no tiers or feature table, but it’s hard to shake the thought you’re leaving a lot on the table, or almost even disqualifying yourself from someone looking for a “premium” solution. I might suggest a $499 and $1999 version which offer merely higher tiers of support, just to see if anyone buys it. Pick some price which feels almost outrageous to you. At the very least it would anchor the $129. At $129 the support should be limited to forums and self-help only. docs.fullhelp.com - “Powered by FullHelp”. Dogfooding doesn’t get better than this! I didn’t see an active live chat widget though? You should be highlighting this as your product demo effectively.
- fullhelp 7y agoHey! Thanks for checking it out! The software can be used by multiple companies or product simultaneously so one license may be enough. Of course, multiple licenses can be purchased if that's necessary just so you know For the live chat, there's a live working widget on the landing page (fullhelp.com), it's located at the bottom right corner. From there, you are able to initiate conversations and also browse the knowledge base site. The software has a Restful API which is used for the dashboard. Dogfooding there also! haha Edit: Also, thanks for the pricing suggestions, sounds like a good approach.
- jaden 7y agoThis looks great! One minor corner case I noticed: If you click "Need help?" on the lower right with a small viewport (I had Chrome dev tools open), the modal content and title bar gets cut off, even when scrolled to the top, meaning you can't close the modal.
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you! The help widget isn't working that great on small viewports, you are right. On iOS, there's also the issue of autozoom when text fields are focused. This is something that will be addressed for the next release which is planned for this week.
- pxtail 7y agoYour project looks very promising. I'm not sure if this feature doesn't exist or I cannot find it anywhere on demo account, but: what's missing for me is fine grained ACL/permissions management. In our company we are using https://www.bookstackapp.com/ https://www.bookstackapp.com/ as knowledge base solution for multiple clients/projects (separate installation for each). Main requirement is to be able to control which user or group can access particular document or group of documents. Is it possible to achieve something like this using your project?
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you! There are role-based permissions implemented, but they are only for team members on the help desk. ACL/permission for knowledge base sites is not present at the moment but may be a good addition for a future release. I have added it to the Trello board.
- nvr219 7y agoI did a search in the docs for "report" and nothing showed up.
- fullhelp 7y agoHey! I don't think that word is present on the few docs created. Try "requirements" which should show two results: https://docs.fullhelp.com/en/search?query=requirements https://docs.fullhelp.com/en/search?query=requirements
- ullarah 7y agoI may be wrong, but they are most likely asking if there is a reporting module (KPIs?) with this product?
- fullhelp 7y agoIn that case, the knowledge base dashboard has several statistics (https://imgur.com/5Z60SWl https://imgur.com/5Z60SWl). Help desk reports are not present at the moment but is something that will be added definitively.
- jppope 7y agoReally badass product. Well done. I will be buying in ~2-3 months
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you!! :-D
- jstsch 7y agoTest driving it, like it a lot! Some initial feedback: * I sent a support request by email with two screenshots. The first screenshot did not show up in the web view (the cid: remains in the HTML source). * A demo account with lots of dummy data might be useful for a quick glance at the product. * Might want to add a Letsencrypt wildcard SSL domain for https://*.demo.fullhelp.com https://*.demo.fullhelp.com * Missing language string when creating an article: Title.created * There is a non-deletable dummy note attached to a customer from a certain Peter Richards ;) * Typo: shoirtly -> shortly * Theming: this is quite a big feature, so understandably a bit rough right now, perhaps offer a blank template .ZIP file to get started? * I'd like to be able to modify language strings, but perhaps this goes via the theming ZIP Looks quite cool!
- fullhelp 7y agoHi! Thanks for taking the time to check it out and the feedback! For the theming feature, I was thinking of adding a way to export the installed themes, that way the user can download the theme being used and apply any customization and re-upload as a new custom theme. A blank template for new designs is an excellent idea. I've also created a small node based command-line program that syncs local development changes to the live knowledge base portals. This helps a lot with testing and previewing the themes. I've not released it just yet, I plan to do so with an MIT license on GitHub. It is similar to Shopify's Themekit (https://shopify.github.io/themekit https://shopify.github.io/themekit). This is what I use to work on theme designs. For knowledgebase language strings, you are right, that's possible at the moment through the theme locale files.
- leesalminen 7y agoAwesome launch, congratulations! Looking forward to the day that we can ditch ZenDesk and use a self hosted option.
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you! :-D
- scrollaway 7y agoLooks very nice. I know you decided against selling this as a SaaS but please reconsider. That you are self-hostable is a selling point that will drive potential hosted customers to you. It's the same story with Gitlab: I love that it's open source and self-hostable. I prefer they take care of the hosting for me, but it's good to know if they go under, I can switch to the self-hosted version and there will be very few workflow changes for my team.
- fullhelp 7y agoHey! I will be considering it, you are right. Some people just don't want to bother with the technical stuff that comes with managing servers and/or installing the software. I'll definitively consider a SaaS version. Thanks!
- dominicr 7y agoSomething to consider is that often I'll test drive a product with a few people on the cheapest possible plan, or free trial, for a month or two before rolling it out. Being able to do that really quickly, without setting up hosting, is a big benefit. If a customer can jump in straight away for a month long trial it might increase sales. Also, I'm not in the market for this right now but I keep a list of products I've seen and liked. The need to sign up for your demo stopped me looking at it. Consider if you can remove that crucial barrier to people seeing your app. Something like read only, a preset user, or generate an account automatically with a disposible email address.
- 5_minutes 7y agoLove it! Like the fair pricing scheme and no monthly subscriptions. Keep it going and we might move from helpscout’s overpriced bloated tool.
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you! :-D
- whycombagator 7y agoLooks pretty decent. Was strongly considering crisp.chat but this looks promising. Just an FYI, after test driving the knowledge base in the demo (creating an article etc) clicking on "View site" yields a "NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID" error. I had to manually update the url to http:// http:// in order to view the knowledge base
- fullhelp 7y agoHi! Thanks for checking it out. The demo domain is missing a SSL certificate for the knowledge base sites. That's something that needs to be fixed.
- veb 7y agoSuper super awesome launch! I love your landing page, and have been looking for something exactly like this for a product I am launching soon. I'll be in touch! Great stuff.
- PakG1 7y agoCongrats, new help desk options are always cool. I can see this being great for web-based businesses, which I suppose is the target from what I can see. For my needs, I unfortunately need help desk software for a corporate environment. That means I need asset management integrated into the help desk software. We are currently setting up GLPI + OCS Inventory NG because we couldn't find any other options that had good asset management. That being said, GLPI is clunky. It's not my first choice, but I couldn't find many options out there that integrated asset management. I feel like as more and more web-based businesses grow, traditional help desk requirements are being left behind (perhaps helped by some organizations going BYOD). Bit jealous of all the people who need help desk software but don't need integrated asset management.
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you! The software is focused on web-based businesses at the moment, mainly because it makes it simpler. However, I'm always open to suggestions. I'm not familiar with the asset management part, but I will definitively check it out and see if this is something that can be added, either built-in or as separate add-on or application. Just like you, there are other people that may benefit from it, especially when you say there aren't many options with a good integration.
- usaphp 7y agoGreat product. Do you not worry about someone copying your code and selling it as a saas? I am selling premium Wordpress plugins and it’s incredible how many people try to purchase my plugin and then offer it as a saas
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- fullhelp 7y agoHey! It's always a concern for me. I'm looking for ways to detect such cases and that way terminate the licenses, which will prevent the user from downloading any release. Another approach that may work (just an idea), is to secure the documentation and allow access to it to logged in users with one valid license at least, but this has some disadvantages like the affected user experience. A legal notice is always an option.
- acct1771 7y agoIf you have to fight in court, there's a chance you already lost. Get it to market first, holding the market is marginally less difficult when you move first.
- RobAley 7y agoDon't block access to the docs. I always go through the docs first before purchasing software, it cuts through the marketing messages and helps me understand if the software does exactly what I need. No available docs = no purchase.
- tjbiddle 7y agoLooks fantastic! If you had integration with a phone number (And tell me what calls I missed + voicemails left), analytics on all tickets and calls, and on the support button integration for my website - if it had live chat, leave a message, and suggested articles from my public knowledge base, and added 1-click deployments to AWS/DigitalOcean/etc. - Then I would switch from ZenDesk
- fullhelp 7y agoThank you! Those are all great suggestions! Some of them are already present, like the live chat, leave a message (the same as live chat which fallbacks to email if the user gets disconnected) and article suggestions from a knowledge base (manually configured with JavaScript). All the other suggestions are great and will definitively consider them. Edit: I suggest to sign up to the newsletter at fullhelp.com to keep up to date on releases. :-D Thanks!
- kekub 7y agoIs it possible to write a bot using the rest api? Are webhooks available when new requests come in? I work in a big company and our main issue from my perspective is, that it takes up to a few hours until a ticket was dispatched correctly. It would be easy to automate this process but our ticket system does not offer any kind of interface.
- fullhelp 7y agoHi! Not at the moment but both are planned. Webhooks will come first as this facilitates, even more, the integration between other systems. Thanks!
- fmos 7y agoLooks great and really uncomplicated. The demo works flawlessly, including receiving email attachments. Good job! Love the readability and content of the license terms as well. In particular the parts on software modifications. One feature that is a show-stopper for our workflow is the possibility of shared drafts, i.e. where an email response can be prepared and stored by one person and later reviewed, perhaps completed, and sent by someone else. Do you think this is something that you might consider adding in the foreseeable future? edit: btw, might serve as a differentiation over Zammad https://github.com/zammad/zammad/issues/629 https://github.com/zammad/zammad/issues/629
- fullhelp 7y agoHi! Thank you! :-D The license is based on DuetApp's (https://duetapp.com/ https://duetapp.com/) version. I liked its simplicity and asked the creator if it would be OK with him to use his license as a starting point. Shared drafts sound like an interesting feature and one that seems easy to implement on Full Help. I've added it to my Trello board. Thanks!
- rahimnathwani 7y agoThis looks awesome. Please prioritise reviewing your pricing/hosting model. If you want to serve your users well, you will want to work on this full time. Making enough money will make it more likely you can do this. Even if your objective is to be much cheaper than your competitors (and serve people who can't afford them), you can still offer this as a SaaS product, but: - have a lower monthly price than the competitors you mentioned (even 50% lower) - charge much more for plans that include features important for large customers, but which smaller companies can easily live without (e.g. SSO)
- fullhelp 7y agoHey! Thanks for your suggestions! I will definitively keep that in mind.
- NewsAware 7y agoNeat. Would have a comment/feature request for the backlog after playing with the demo: I will be uld have expected autosuggest behavior in both the frontend search as well as in various admin input fields and actually waited for suggestions to appear before realizing this isn't in there yet.
- fullhelp 7y agoHey! Thanks for checking it out and the feedback! I will make sure that future versions have the autosuggestion behavior on search fields and any input field on the admin side that requires it.