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this is such a long and convoluted conflict... israel withdrew from gaza in 2005, but kept control of access points, air travel etc making gaza a weird place,
by kmlx 8y ago
this is such a long and convoluted conflict...
israel withdrew from gaza in 2005, but kept control of access points, air travel etc making gaza a weird place, partly under israel control.
hamas (basically a terrorist org) literally took over gaza from fatah (a nationalist party) in a war in 2007. then you’ve got the islamic jihadis, a bonafide terror org, which started taking over from hamas, in the same gaza strip.
both hamas and islamic jihadis want the annihilation of the state of israel.
i see no end in sight to the bloodshed, no matter how many civilians die.
but i do understand why people would side with israel when it comes to gaza, and side with the palestinians when it comes to occupied territories.
- aptidude187 8y ago"this is such a long and convoluted conflict" - Not really, this is just a simple case of settler colonialism, anyone who claims that this is a "complex" conflict is either ignorant or deliberately trying to confuse people. Recommended reading from Theodor Herzl (founding father of zionism) to Noam Chomsky (secular jewish intellectual) for those who are truly interested in the facts: The Jewish State (Der Judenstaat), (1896) [https://archive.org/details/ajewishstateana00aviggoog https://archive.org/details/ajewishstateana00aviggoog] On Palestine - Noam Chomsky [https://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Noam-Chomsky/dp/1608464709/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=On+Palestine&qid=1557203766&s=books&sr=1-1 https://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Noam-Chomsky/dp/1608464709/...] The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Ilan Pappe (jewish historian) [https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=The+Ethnic+Cleansing+of+Palestine&qid=1557203807&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe...]
- jsmith99 8y agoI would hesitate to include Ilan Pappe in that list - his academic career is somewhat controversial. https://newrepublic.com/article/85344/ilan-pappe-sloppy-dishonest-historian https://newrepublic.com/article/85344/ilan-pappe-sloppy-dish...
- nir 8y agoUsually people who see things as "simple" when most consider them complex are either extremely smart or extremely shallow. Providing Ilan Pappe as a serious source tells where you are in that range.
- yostrovs 8y agoChomsky, being wrong more often than right, is also a buffoon though he "sounds" smart.
- kmlx 8y ago> Not really, this is just a simple case of settler colonialism wrong on so many level it's not even funny.
- dev_north_east 8y ago> israel withdrew from gaza in 2005, but kept control of access points Why does Egypt blockade Gaza on their side? (serious q)
- kmlx 8y agoterrorism? gaza is a breeding ground...