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I am not so sure. Read about the Aziz Anzari situation. Everyone makes mistakes. But consent is not revokable the next day. To claim abuse later, and not take

by ArtDev 7y ago

I am not so sure. Read about the Aziz Anzari situation. Everyone makes mistakes. But consent is not revokable the next day. To claim abuse later, and not take responsibility, is absurd and offensive to real victims. But this is how it is until women can take responsibility and say clearly "no" or accept the consequences of saying "yes" and possibly regretting it later.

inferiorhuman 7y ago
Read about the Aziz Anzari situation. You mean the part where consent wasn't given in the first place? Here's the original article: https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355 https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355 “I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’ And he goes, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and I go, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’”
- wnoise 7y ago
  What you have quoted is just talking. It isn't something that needs any strong worry about consent. Read standalone, it could be anything from mutually flirtatious banter to the cringiest of escalation attempts. Read in the context of the rest of the article, it's clearly the latter. But being bad at flirting, bad at trying to get to yes is in no way a violation of consent. That said, other parts of the babe.net article do paint a much worse picture, of physically escalating both inappropriately (e.g. repeatedly putting her hand on his dick) and bizarrely (what's up with that fingers in mouth thing she described?)
  - inferiorhuman 7y ago
    What you have quoted is just talking. Sure, but it's a very unambiguous example of her communicating lack of consent. One of many, yes. The Pixar debacle is even more clear cut IMO — don't insist on touching your subordinates.

by ArtDev 7y ago

inferiorhuman 7y ago

Read about the Aziz Anzari situation. You mean the part where consent wasn't given in the first place? Here's the original article: https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355 https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355 “I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’ And he goes, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and I go, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’”

wnoise 7y ago
What you have quoted is just talking. It isn't something that needs any strong worry about consent. Read standalone, it could be anything from mutually flirtatious banter to the cringiest of escalation attempts. Read in the context of the rest of the article, it's clearly the latter. But being bad at flirting, bad at trying to get to yes is in no way a violation of consent. That said, other parts of the babe.net article do paint a much worse picture, of physically escalating both inappropriately (e.g. repeatedly putting her hand on his dick) and bizarrely (what's up with that fingers in mouth thing she described?)
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  What you have quoted is just talking. Sure, but it's a very unambiguous example of her communicating lack of consent. One of many, yes. The Pixar debacle is even more clear cut IMO — don't insist on touching your subordinates.