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> That crossover point has now risen to encompass the majority of consumer use cases cheapest drives measured in price/capacity HDDs: 2TB @ 0.017€/GB M.2 SSD

> That crossover point has now risen to encompass the majority of consumer use cases cheapest drives measured in price/capacity HDDs: 2TB @ 0.017€/GB M.2 SSDs: 2TB @ 0.1€/GB I see no crossover point here. SSDs are not even touching the the same order of magnitude.

nicoburns 8y ago
The crossover point is currently around 256gb. 500gb is close. 1tb/2tb isn't there yet. But it likely won't be too long.
- the8472 8y ago
  2.5" HDD, 250GB @ 0.059€/GB 2.5" SSD, 256GB @ 0.108€/GB Still not seeing it. And I don't consider these ranges practical. But I guess some people must since they're still made.
  - wtallis 8y ago
    Pay a little more attention to the hard drives you're looking at. Almost all the product listings for tiny hard drives are for models that are several generations old, usually with branding that the manufacturers have long since retired (WD Caviar, Seagate Momentus). The cheapest listings are often grey market sellers of old stock with no manufacturer's warranty. Seagate has abandoned all capacities below 500GB, and they offer limited options for form factor and RPM at 500GB. Western Digital still lists one 250GB model and two 320GB models, but none of them are cheaper than a 480GB-class SATA SSD. Current 500GB hard drives start at $38-40, and 480GB SSDs start around $48-50. These capacities are sufficient for typical consumers.
incompatible 8y ago
Maybe you have to go a bit lower. Does the typical consumer use case need even 2TB?
- the8472 8y ago
  Games tend to gobble up a lot of space
- wtallis 8y ago
  Most of the consumer use cases for 2+ TB are well served by external drives or a NAS, which aren't part of the market segment that Nidec is predicting to crash this year. Backups and movie/photo libraries don't need to be on local internal drives. Large video game libraries just don't account for very much of the PC userbase. Every PC should have an SSD as primary storage, and with 512GB drives down to $50, very few PCs need any other internal storage.
  - incompatible 8y ago
    Yeah, I just noticed how cheap the SSDs have become. I just ordered a couple of small ones, even though I'm generally a cheapskate.

nicoburns 8y ago

The crossover point is currently around 256gb. 500gb is close. 1tb/2tb isn't there yet. But it likely won't be too long.

the8472 8y ago
2.5" HDD, 250GB @ 0.059€/GB 2.5" SSD, 256GB @ 0.108€/GB Still not seeing it. And I don't consider these ranges practical. But I guess some people must since they're still made.
- wtallis 8y ago
  Pay a little more attention to the hard drives you're looking at. Almost all the product listings for tiny hard drives are for models that are several generations old, usually with branding that the manufacturers have long since retired (WD Caviar, Seagate Momentus). The cheapest listings are often grey market sellers of old stock with no manufacturer's warranty. Seagate has abandoned all capacities below 500GB, and they offer limited options for form factor and RPM at 500GB. Western Digital still lists one 250GB model and two 320GB models, but none of them are cheaper than a 480GB-class SATA SSD. Current 500GB hard drives start at $38-40, and 480GB SSDs start around $48-50. These capacities are sufficient for typical consumers.

incompatible 8y ago

Maybe you have to go a bit lower. Does the typical consumer use case need even 2TB?

the8472 8y ago
Games tend to gobble up a lot of space
wtallis 8y ago
Most of the consumer use cases for 2+ TB are well served by external drives or a NAS, which aren't part of the market segment that Nidec is predicting to crash this year. Backups and movie/photo libraries don't need to be on local internal drives. Large video game libraries just don't account for very much of the PC userbase. Every PC should have an SSD as primary storage, and with 512GB drives down to $50, very few PCs need any other internal storage.
- incompatible 8y ago
  Yeah, I just noticed how cheap the SSDs have become. I just ordered a couple of small ones, even though I'm generally a cheapskate.