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2019 is the year of desktop linux on windows?

by X6S1x6Okd1st 7y ago

microwavecamera 7y ago
Yo dawg we heard you liked desktops so we put a desktop on your desktop.
the8472 7y ago
not yet, we have to wait until microsoft announces wayland support
tareqak 7y ago
So 2019 is going to be the year if the Linux desktop, and it's going to be brought to the world by Microsoft? Just when I thought this timeline couldn't get any weirder. I personally think that this is a good thing in the short-term for both Linux users and Windows users in that it gives both platforms a sort of kick in the pants each to deal with one platform's deficiency by incorporating the other's strength. I could speculate about where this all could go wrong long-term, but that is basically a future resurgence of embrace-extend-extinguish, which anyone here can look up. What is important now is that people voted with their time, their wallets, and their voices to give Microsoft a strong enough signal to invest their future product development around. These people include Linux users, Linux developers (kernel and userspace), Windows users, and Microsoft itself and all of them deserve some amount of gratitude for getting us here today so thank you. To be completely honest, the only way this news could be any better in my eyes was that if Microsoft also committed to being 100% privacy-focused and removed any and all telemetry from Windows, but I guess the four groups of people I laid out previously did not want that level of privacy just as badly.
- zeusk 7y ago
  > To be completely honest, the only way this news could be any better in my eyes was that if Microsoft also committed to being 100% privacy-focused and removed any and all telemetry from Windows. As much as I'm also privacy minded, I do support telemetry in software (not the kind that touches my data) but if the developers can get traces of how people actually interact with their product and what happened when their product did crash - it helps a LOT, not only technically but also to shift management's focus onto an issue. What do you have against telemetry in software? (again, not the kind that saps your data for gains).
  - tareqak 7y ago
    I don't have anything against the good kind of telemetry in software provided that you can demonstrate to both non-technical and technical users that it is not the bad kind of telemetry with extremely high confidence.

2019 is the year of desktop linux on windows?

microwavecamera 7y ago

Yo dawg we heard you liked desktops so we put a desktop on your desktop.

the8472 7y ago

not yet, we have to wait until microsoft announces wayland support

tareqak 7y ago

So 2019 is going to be the year if the Linux desktop, and it's going to be brought to the world by Microsoft? Just when I thought this timeline couldn't get any weirder. I personally think that this is a good thing in the short-term for both Linux users and Windows users in that it gives both platforms a sort of kick in the pants each to deal with one platform's deficiency by incorporating the other's strength. I could speculate about where this all could go wrong long-term, but that is basically a future resurgence of embrace-extend-extinguish, which anyone here can look up. What is important now is that people voted with their time, their wallets, and their voices to give Microsoft a strong enough signal to invest their future product development around. These people include Linux users, Linux developers (kernel and userspace), Windows users, and Microsoft itself and all of them deserve some amount of gratitude for getting us here today so thank you. To be completely honest, the only way this news could be any better in my eyes was that if Microsoft also committed to being 100% privacy-focused and removed any and all telemetry from Windows, but I guess the four groups of people I laid out previously did not want that level of privacy just as badly.

zeusk 7y ago
> To be completely honest, the only way this news could be any better in my eyes was that if Microsoft also committed to being 100% privacy-focused and removed any and all telemetry from Windows. As much as I'm also privacy minded, I do support telemetry in software (not the kind that touches my data) but if the developers can get traces of how people actually interact with their product and what happened when their product did crash - it helps a LOT, not only technically but also to shift management's focus onto an issue. What do you have against telemetry in software? (again, not the kind that saps your data for gains).
- tareqak 7y ago
  I don't have anything against the good kind of telemetry in software provided that you can demonstrate to both non-technical and technical users that it is not the bad kind of telemetry with extremely high confidence.