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OK, what happens when a member of the Human Driving Association impacts a member of the I'm A Goddamned Pedestrian Stop Fucking Killing Me Association? My idea

by msla 8y ago

OK, what happens when a member of the Human Driving Association impacts a member of the I'm A Goddamned Pedestrian Stop Fucking Killing Me Association? My idea is simple: If, in an era when self-driving cars are the norm, you choose to drive and you hit someone, that's it. It's First Degree/Premeditated Homicide if you killed them, or the highest possible degree of Aggravated Assault if you didn't. You did something deliberately contrary to the norm, which was significantly more dangerous to everyone else, and, as a direct result, you caused them death or permanent damage. You can't rely on the excuse of needing to drive yourself, as you can now, so the penalties go up proportionately.

xur17 8y ago
I feel like the penalty should be similar to the penalty given for accidentally shooting someone with a firearm when hunting and killing them. Any idea what the penalty is for that?
- msla 8y ago
  https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/03/what-are-the-criminal-penalties-for-accidentally-shooting-someone.html https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/03/what-are-the-crimi... > When a person unintentionally kills another, whether or not a gun was used, they can be charged with manslaughter, which is a felony. Manslaughter is frequently referred to as criminally negligent homicide, as that name more closely mirrors the elements of a manslaughter charge. To be found guilty of manslaughter, a person has to die as a result of a defendant's inherently dangerous actions or actions taken with reckless disregard. > Typical penalties for a manslaughter conviction include at least one year in jail, and can be much worse if the conduct that led to the death merit such. For example, a repeat drunk driver that causes a death is likely to face a harsher sentence than a recently victimized elderly man who, instinctively, accidentally shoots someone they believe to be a robber. And I say the penalties should be worse because cars would be less obviously dangerous than guns in an era when most cars are self-driving. In short, a gun is a gun, and people know what guns are. If someone is waving a firearm around, well, most people who have competent faculties know that that's dangerous. In the era I'm foreseeing, which I think is the era most of us in this thread are foreseeing, a car is no longer as inherently dangerous as they are now, unless someone has made the conscious choice to make it that dangerous again by driving it manually. I also support greatly increased penalties for DUI, but that's going a bit afield.
wutbrodo 8y ago
Yea, there's really no arguments being made on this thread that don't apply just as directly to illegal street racing today, yet I'd be shocked if more than a minuscule fraction of the people in a Tiff on this thread would have the self-awareness and intellectual honesty to defend the right of street racers to kill innocent bystanders

by msla 8y ago

xur17 8y ago

I feel like the penalty should be similar to the penalty given for accidentally shooting someone with a firearm when hunting and killing them. Any idea what the penalty is for that?

msla 8y ago
https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/03/what-are-the-criminal-penalties-for-accidentally-shooting-someone.html https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/03/what-are-the-crimi... > When a person unintentionally kills another, whether or not a gun was used, they can be charged with manslaughter, which is a felony. Manslaughter is frequently referred to as criminally negligent homicide, as that name more closely mirrors the elements of a manslaughter charge. To be found guilty of manslaughter, a person has to die as a result of a defendant's inherently dangerous actions or actions taken with reckless disregard. > Typical penalties for a manslaughter conviction include at least one year in jail, and can be much worse if the conduct that led to the death merit such. For example, a repeat drunk driver that causes a death is likely to face a harsher sentence than a recently victimized elderly man who, instinctively, accidentally shoots someone they believe to be a robber. And I say the penalties should be worse because cars would be less obviously dangerous than guns in an era when most cars are self-driving. In short, a gun is a gun, and people know what guns are. If someone is waving a firearm around, well, most people who have competent faculties know that that's dangerous. In the era I'm foreseeing, which I think is the era most of us in this thread are foreseeing, a car is no longer as inherently dangerous as they are now, unless someone has made the conscious choice to make it that dangerous again by driving it manually. I also support greatly increased penalties for DUI, but that's going a bit afield.

wutbrodo 8y ago

Yea, there's really no arguments being made on this thread that don't apply just as directly to illegal street racing today, yet I'd be shocked if more than a minuscule fraction of the people in a Tiff on this thread would have the self-awareness and intellectual honesty to defend the right of street racers to kill innocent bystanders