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App-based drivers in New York City are already legally entitled to a minimum wage of about $17 an hour after expenses. The Taxi Workers Alliance says its demand

App-based drivers in New York City are already legally entitled to a minimum wage of about $17 an hour after expenses. The Taxi Workers Alliance says its demands include greater job security. A Lyft spokeswoman said Lyft drivers' hourly earnings have increased over the last two years. I am confused by this article. Drivers already have a (relatively high) minimum wage. Now they want job security according to the article? What would that look like given that drivers can work anytime they want? Also, why did Lyft comment on the wage if that is not what drivers are demanding?

gamblor956 7y ago
A) Lyft is lying, based on nearly unanimous independent reporting of driver earnings. B)The minimum wage is not high at all. The minimum wage is necessary because driver's are responsible for all of the costs of maintaining their vehicles, gas, parking etc. Imagine if your pay as a programmer required you to also pay for your computer, the parts, the software, the electricity, renting a cubicle/desk/office to work at, etc.
- ma2rten 7y ago
  The article said the minimum wage is after expenses. I think the minimum wage is high compared to other ride share wages in other areas. It also above the minimum wage in New York, despite being more flexible than other jobs. My wife is a driver for doordash in the Bay Area. She willingly takes compensation below minimum wage (if you take into account expenses), because she can drive any time she wants.
- ng12 7y ago
  $17 is a pretty good wage for low-skill labor in NYC.
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  - atwebb 7y ago
    Fast food/grocery in the midwest/south is paying $12/hr, probably bit apples/oranges but I would've expected this to be higher.
    - bpicolo 7y ago
      NYC minimum wage only recently became 15/hr
  - gamblor956 7y ago
    The $17.22/hourly is $15/hourly after taking into account self-employment taxes, which the NYT&LC did in coming up with that number. https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/tlc/downloads/pdf/driver_income_rules_12_04_2018.pdf https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/tlc/downloads/pdf/driver_income_...

gamblor956 7y ago

A) Lyft is lying, based on nearly unanimous independent reporting of driver earnings. B)The minimum wage is not high at all. The minimum wage is necessary because driver's are responsible for all of the costs of maintaining their vehicles, gas, parking etc. Imagine if your pay as a programmer required you to also pay for your computer, the parts, the software, the electricity, renting a cubicle/desk/office to work at, etc.

ma2rten 7y ago
The article said the minimum wage is after expenses. I think the minimum wage is high compared to other ride share wages in other areas. It also above the minimum wage in New York, despite being more flexible than other jobs. My wife is a driver for doordash in the Bay Area. She willingly takes compensation below minimum wage (if you take into account expenses), because she can drive any time she wants.
ng12 7y ago
$17 is a pretty good wage for low-skill labor in NYC.
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- atwebb 7y ago
  Fast food/grocery in the midwest/south is paying $12/hr, probably bit apples/oranges but I would've expected this to be higher.
  - bpicolo 7y ago
    NYC minimum wage only recently became 15/hr
- gamblor956 7y ago
  The $17.22/hourly is $15/hourly after taking into account self-employment taxes, which the NYT&LC did in coming up with that number. https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/tlc/downloads/pdf/driver_income_rules_12_04_2018.pdf https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/tlc/downloads/pdf/driver_income_...