Yeah, you can stop calling me a fool. Like I said I'm not making any value judgments. If anything your example disproves your own point. The reality is that hum

Yeah, you can stop calling me a fool. Like I said I'm not making any value judgments. If anything your example disproves your own point. The reality is that humans are not harmonious by nature at scale and the people in charge are always going to be powerful and practical ("amoral" in your terminology). If they weren't, the systems would collapse or be taken over by a competitor who is more effective. Edit: we're done here. You obviously can't have an intelligent and respectful discussion.