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What you seem to ignore each time when doggedly defending MS is that this is not some checklist of grievances towards them, that once "fixed" will make everythi
by blub 8y ago
What you seem to ignore each time when doggedly defending MS is that this is not some checklist of grievances towards them, that once "fixed" will make everything be just fine again. No, Microsoft have proven that they couldn't care less about the privacy or concerns of large parts of their customer base.
Windows 10 telemetry is not an oopsie or one time thing. It's an entire saga that got wide press coverage every time Microsoft was playing dumb, diverting attention or making up excuses and generally being asses.
Windows 10 updates completely ignoring the wishes of the owner of the PC is not a one time thing either.
Microsoft has simply lost respect for its customers, it thinks it can throw some open source bones over the fence to keep the nerds happy and switch to SaaS, this time copying Google instead of Apple. They deserve zero respect for that, no matter how many terminals they include in their OS.
- OneWordSoln 8y agoThe negativity on this site towards people who express any opinion beyond the herd is making this site a groupthink echo chamber. This karma system has failed.
- zoeysaurusrex 8y agoTotally agree. I've largely quit commenting here at all because of it. I always thought gross polarization of topics would never come to HN, but here we are.
- OneWordSoln 8y agoAnd the result is that the comments are really of very little use anymore. Time was they used to be enlightening. Too bad Paul Graham doesn't give a rat's ass. He has the opportunity to create something beneficial to world society here but doesn't care to put in the money and thought to figure out how to make it work.
- stupendousyappi 8y agoI think HN still has one of the highest signal to noise ratios on the web.
- intended 8y agoI’ll prove my counter point by calling you names. Serious note: forums decay. Entropy in social media, and forum denizens exists. Such a result is unsurprising,
- plootoh 8y ago+100
- dang 8y agoIt isn't accurate to describe HN as pro- or anti-Microsoft (or any $bigco or $bigtopic). It has a wide range of users who feel different things. The comment above isn't representative. Its indignation-to-information ratio was too high to be a good HN comment, though. Calling names like "herd" and "groupthink" doesn't contain information either; it's just bragging. I wrote about this the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19791293 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19791293
- OneWordSoln 8y agoI'm talking about the commentariat as a whole. It has become polarized and negative and absolutely infused with groupthink, which is a very specific concept. Too bad you can't accept the truth. And speaking the truth to the willfully ignorant is not bragging, and the ad hominems you just slung at me prove that you're the petty one here. The first step to fixing problems is to admit that they exist. Until then, feel free to keep downvoting folks like me and pretending that everything's ok but know that that is NEVER the solution to any problem, especially a software systems problem.