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On the Edge team and I can tell you, in no way, does supporting IE, hold back our development capabilities. If anything, it enables more companies to adopt Edg

On the Edge team and I can tell you, in no way, does supporting IE, hold back our development capabilities. If anything, it enables more companies to adopt Edge without concern of breaking support for their legacy applications. We see that Developers are the ones held back by older versions, and we see this as a huge win for them.

nickspag 7y ago
This is basically just a compatibility mode where you switch the IE renderer in the tab within the same Edge application "shell." Seems like a no-brainer.
vanadium 7y ago
We're trying to figure out on my team what the Edge Team's plan for rollout on OSes with IE11 already installed looks like; e.g., will Edge Chromium outright pull and replace Legacy Edge _and_ IE11 from Win7? And is "IE Mode" going to be an option on the non-Enterprise version of Chromium Edge? I'd love to see more messaging around the rollout intentions; plenty of us out here still supporting IE11 (non-Government, non-Enterprise) and trying to read between the lines to a point where we can start legitimately calling the time of death.
arthurfm 7y ago
Will it be possible to 'remove' IE from Windows 10 (for example, via: Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature –Online -FeatureName Internet-Explorer-Optional-amd64) and then only allow users to access IE through the new Edge?
bla3 7y ago
So implementing this took zero work? Probably not. Do you think it will cost nothing to maintain? Probably neither. So I don't see how "in no way" could be true.
- thelarkinn 7y ago
  I never said there wasn't a cost. Every technical decision comes with trade-offs. But costs don't hold us back from developing amazing new features [for developers and consumers] for the future. <3
  - mariondaly 7y ago
    I work on the Edge team as well. -- This is largely work that already existed in the older Edge instance, just made more seamless and with a proper allow-list to make it more secure. It didn't take zero work but it didn't need an overhaul of the DOM or anything like that.
  - bla3 7y ago
    Best of luck! I do hope new Edge finds success :)
- coldtea 7y ago
  Zero and insignificant are not the same, but quite close. It doesn't have to take "zero" work to not hold them back. Nor does it have to be the same team/people working on both.
irrational 7y ago
As long as MS supports IE, we are mandated that we have to support IE. As far as I know, only IE11 is still supported by MS, but support will continues until 2025. The thought of all websites we build having to be compatible with IE11 until 2025 makes me sick. Is there any hope that rolling IE into Edge will shorten the time that IE11 is supported?
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  If it becomes a feature of Edge rathe than a standalone product, what is supported is now Edge (which has a feature allowing it to support legacy IE websites), not IE. That is, no one will be using a supported browser that only supports IE functionality, so while Edge users can access IE websites, there's no reason for anyone else to support IE in order to cater to those users, since they will actually be using a modern browser, not IE.

nickspag 7y ago

This is basically just a compatibility mode where you switch the IE renderer in the tab within the same Edge application "shell." Seems like a no-brainer.

vanadium 7y ago

We're trying to figure out on my team what the Edge Team's plan for rollout on OSes with IE11 already installed looks like; e.g., will Edge Chromium outright pull and replace Legacy Edge _and_ IE11 from Win7? And is "IE Mode" going to be an option on the non-Enterprise version of Chromium Edge? I'd love to see more messaging around the rollout intentions; plenty of us out here still supporting IE11 (non-Government, non-Enterprise) and trying to read between the lines to a point where we can start legitimately calling the time of death.

arthurfm 7y ago

Will it be possible to 'remove' IE from Windows 10 (for example, via: Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature –Online -FeatureName Internet-Explorer-Optional-amd64) and then only allow users to access IE through the new Edge?

bla3 7y ago

So implementing this took zero work? Probably not. Do you think it will cost nothing to maintain? Probably neither. So I don't see how "in no way" could be true.

thelarkinn 7y ago
I never said there wasn't a cost. Every technical decision comes with trade-offs. But costs don't hold us back from developing amazing new features [for developers and consumers] for the future. <3
- mariondaly 7y ago
  I work on the Edge team as well. -- This is largely work that already existed in the older Edge instance, just made more seamless and with a proper allow-list to make it more secure. It didn't take zero work but it didn't need an overhaul of the DOM or anything like that.
- bla3 7y ago
  Best of luck! I do hope new Edge finds success :)
coldtea 7y ago
Zero and insignificant are not the same, but quite close. It doesn't have to take "zero" work to not hold them back. Nor does it have to be the same team/people working on both.

irrational 7y ago

As long as MS supports IE, we are mandated that we have to support IE. As far as I know, only IE11 is still supported by MS, but support will continues until 2025. The thought of all websites we build having to be compatible with IE11 until 2025 makes me sick. Is there any hope that rolling IE into Edge will shorten the time that IE11 is supported?

dragonwriter 7y ago
If it becomes a feature of Edge rathe than a standalone product, what is supported is now Edge (which has a feature allowing it to support legacy IE websites), not IE. That is, no one will be using a supported browser that only supports IE functionality, so while Edge users can access IE websites, there's no reason for anyone else to support IE in order to cater to those users, since they will actually be using a modern browser, not IE.