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> Is it also cruel to let one unvaccinated child endanger the lives of thousands? Right, that's immoral, but what I was getting at was that you can choose to n

> Is it also cruel to let one unvaccinated child endanger the lives of thousands? Right, that's immoral, but what I was getting at was that you can choose to not endanger anybody to a large extent even if you aren't vaccinated. The main problem are densely populated areas and public institutions. If you are just living on a farm in the middle of nowhere barely visiting the neighbor villages there is much less risk involved. > I'm also fine with sequestering unvaccinated children and adults, but given Germany's history, that might not go over very well. I know, I'm German, but the proposal itself bears some resemblance to forced sterilization during that time to "improve public health". It's one of the most tricky policy areas there are and should be handled with more care and consideration. I totally agree that getting vaccinated is the right choice, but without consent it's abuse and if written as law it's tyrannic.

detaro 7y ago
> but without consent it's abuse It's not exactly a new concept that parents' rights to make decisions for their kids isn't absolute (e.g. the law requires that you send your kids to school, and it is not considered abuse if the state enforces that), so there clearly is some potential room for this.
drivingmenuts 7y ago
> I totally agree that getting vaccinated is the right choice, but without consent it's abuse and if written as law it's tyrannic. And what option is there if the parents refuse to give consent? People who refuse to vaccinate their kids for bullshit-science reasons aren’t exactly reasonable to begin with. Tyranny sucks but it’s very occasionally useful and people get over it eventually. Ask any parent who used to a teen about the wannabe Genghis Khan they had for a parent.
majewsky 7y ago
> If you are just living on a farm in the middle of nowhere barely visiting the neighbor villages there is much less risk involved. Sounds like you've never visited Germany.
- eindiran 7y ago
  > I know, I'm German The post says that GP is German.

detaro 7y ago

> but without consent it's abuse It's not exactly a new concept that parents' rights to make decisions for their kids isn't absolute (e.g. the law requires that you send your kids to school, and it is not considered abuse if the state enforces that), so there clearly is some potential room for this.

drivingmenuts 7y ago

> I totally agree that getting vaccinated is the right choice, but without consent it's abuse and if written as law it's tyrannic. And what option is there if the parents refuse to give consent? People who refuse to vaccinate their kids for bullshit-science reasons aren’t exactly reasonable to begin with. Tyranny sucks but it’s very occasionally useful and people get over it eventually. Ask any parent who used to a teen about the wannabe Genghis Khan they had for a parent.

majewsky 7y ago

> If you are just living on a farm in the middle of nowhere barely visiting the neighbor villages there is much less risk involved. Sounds like you've never visited Germany.

eindiran 7y ago
> I know, I'm German The post says that GP is German.