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I spent over 10 years in various prisons. Never once during those ten years was anyone raped in any of them. Prisoners joke about it, threaten it, but will no

I spent over 10 years in various prisons. Never once during those ten years was anyone raped in any of them. Prisoners joke about it, threaten it, but will not do it, for the one reason called DNA evidence. It would really suck to become a sex offender while you're in prison. There is also another saying from prison - "If you don't say 'No', it ain't rape." Most guys who get into trouble (typically from debt), end up selling their ass.

dragonwriter 8y ago
> I spent over 10 years in various prisons. Never once during those ten years was anyone raped in any of them. I doubt it. > Prisoners joke about it, threaten it, but will not do it, for the one reason called DNA evidence. It would really suck to become a sex offender while you're in prison. Plenty of people in prison are already sex offenders, or are never getting out in any case (so that being required to register as a ex offender when they do is moot), so while that may dissuade some, it's clearly not going to be a universally applicable deterrent. Of course, even where it applies, that's more of a reason to assure that a rape isn't reported and investigated, which can be done by means other than not committing it, such as being sure that the victim is sufficiently afraid of violent retaliation if a report occurs. > There is also another saying from prison - "If you don't say 'No', it ain't rape." That may be a saying in prison (and one which serves to discouraging reporting of rapes), but it's not an accurate statement about the law.
- Fjolsvith 8y ago
  > That may be a saying in prison (and one which serves to discouraging reporting of rapes), but it's not an accurate statement about the law. We are talking about people who don't respect the law. > Of course, even where it applies, that's more of a reason to assure that a rape isn't reported and investigated, which can be done by means other than not committing it, such as being sure that the victim is sufficiently afraid of violent retaliation if a report occurs. So by your logic, just because there aren't reports and investigations, it actually proves it is happening.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > So by your logic, just because there aren't reports and investigations, it actually proves it is happening. There are reports and investigations (the reports actually increasing rapidly; investigations and even moreso authorities validating the reports less so, but then the authorities are themselves the most rapidly increasing set of alleged perpetrators), but (just as in the non-prison world, though the multiplier is higher) there are more incidents reported in anonymous victimization surveys than are reported non-anonymously in ways which enable investigation, but also retaliation.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> I spent over 10 years in various prisons. Never once during those ten years was anyone raped in any of them. I doubt it. > Prisoners joke about it, threaten it, but will not do it, for the one reason called DNA evidence. It would really suck to become a sex offender while you're in prison. Plenty of people in prison are already sex offenders, or are never getting out in any case (so that being required to register as a ex offender when they do is moot), so while that may dissuade some, it's clearly not going to be a universally applicable deterrent. Of course, even where it applies, that's more of a reason to assure that a rape isn't reported and investigated, which can be done by means other than not committing it, such as being sure that the victim is sufficiently afraid of violent retaliation if a report occurs. > There is also another saying from prison - "If you don't say 'No', it ain't rape." That may be a saying in prison (and one which serves to discouraging reporting of rapes), but it's not an accurate statement about the law.

Fjolsvith 8y ago
> That may be a saying in prison (and one which serves to discouraging reporting of rapes), but it's not an accurate statement about the law. We are talking about people who don't respect the law. > Of course, even where it applies, that's more of a reason to assure that a rape isn't reported and investigated, which can be done by means other than not committing it, such as being sure that the victim is sufficiently afraid of violent retaliation if a report occurs. So by your logic, just because there aren't reports and investigations, it actually proves it is happening.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > So by your logic, just because there aren't reports and investigations, it actually proves it is happening. There are reports and investigations (the reports actually increasing rapidly; investigations and even moreso authorities validating the reports less so, but then the authorities are themselves the most rapidly increasing set of alleged perpetrators), but (just as in the non-prison world, though the multiplier is higher) there are more incidents reported in anonymous victimization surveys than are reported non-anonymously in ways which enable investigation, but also retaliation.