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They should at least give the subject area related to the violation. > We’ve reviewed and confirmed this association. Such a detail...

tinus_hn 7y ago
We don’t know what kind of details Google gave, we only have one side of the story.
- lostmyoldone 7y ago
  Google don't give any details, as far as I have been able to deduce, and that's absolutely part of the problem. As far as I know, nobody even knows what the phrase "associated account" means, it could be anything, maybe someone free-riding on your WiFi? It's one of the things Google does that I find absolutely appalling. It patently absurd that you for unknowable reasons might become unable to continue supporting yourself without any recourse or remedy at the leisure of these behemoth companies, only because they consider you associated with someone who has broken the rules. Since so little is known, it might even affect your possibilities for employment. Who would want to risk their product getting thrown out of the app store because your team got 'tainted' by a hire which had a prior app store termination to his/her name?
  - deogeo 7y ago
    > someone who has broken the rules. Google's rules. How long till they decide that making apps to break Android DRM, or block advertising, is also against their rules? Those rules aren't written to advance ethical computing, but to make Google money.
    - ggggtez 7y ago
      Breaking DRM is against federal law, so... I'm not sure where you are going with this. It sounds like you really want to bring that up with the Terms of Service of your government.
    - lostmyoldone 7y ago
      I'm absolutely with you on that one. I probably should have been even more clear on my position, I really think app store agreements and rules need to be reigned in, somehow. Right now it looks like it's probably going to be done, badly, by various governments. Not ideal, but neither of the major players show any real intent of fixing their issues, different as they are. There are too many parallels between how the feudal lords of old treated indentured labour/bond servants/serfs and how app developers are treated today. Difference too, clearly, but the similarities are concerning nevertheless. In feudal society the lords were effectively above the law, and from the perspectives of an app developer, the app store gatekeepers are similarly above the law. Not literally so, but effectively so. We've allowed companies to create their own virtual kingdoms where the ToS is the constitution, and the serfs have no rights but those given by the king.

tinus_hn 7y ago

We don’t know what kind of details Google gave, we only have one side of the story.

lostmyoldone 7y ago
Google don't give any details, as far as I have been able to deduce, and that's absolutely part of the problem. As far as I know, nobody even knows what the phrase "associated account" means, it could be anything, maybe someone free-riding on your WiFi? It's one of the things Google does that I find absolutely appalling. It patently absurd that you for unknowable reasons might become unable to continue supporting yourself without any recourse or remedy at the leisure of these behemoth companies, only because they consider you associated with someone who has broken the rules. Since so little is known, it might even affect your possibilities for employment. Who would want to risk their product getting thrown out of the app store because your team got 'tainted' by a hire which had a prior app store termination to his/her name?
- deogeo 7y ago
  > someone who has broken the rules. Google's rules. How long till they decide that making apps to break Android DRM, or block advertising, is also against their rules? Those rules aren't written to advance ethical computing, but to make Google money.
  - ggggtez 7y ago
    Breaking DRM is against federal law, so... I'm not sure where you are going with this. It sounds like you really want to bring that up with the Terms of Service of your government.
  - lostmyoldone 7y ago
    I'm absolutely with you on that one. I probably should have been even more clear on my position, I really think app store agreements and rules need to be reigned in, somehow. Right now it looks like it's probably going to be done, badly, by various governments. Not ideal, but neither of the major players show any real intent of fixing their issues, different as they are. There are too many parallels between how the feudal lords of old treated indentured labour/bond servants/serfs and how app developers are treated today. Difference too, clearly, but the similarities are concerning nevertheless. In feudal society the lords were effectively above the law, and from the perspectives of an app developer, the app store gatekeepers are similarly above the law. Not literally so, but effectively so. We've allowed companies to create their own virtual kingdoms where the ToS is the constitution, and the serfs have no rights but those given by the king.