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> Rust is already a weird language Some folks came up with the idea of a "weirdness" budget - arguing that Rust had come close to using it all up. >I feel lik

> Rust is already a weird language Some folks came up with the idea of a "weirdness" budget - arguing that Rust had come close to using it all up. >I feel like the committee has worried about the wrong things There is no "committee" really, and all the worries have been expressed and weighed. The debate over this syntax has been going on for months and had huge community involvement. It's all been summed up in this document: https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Await-Syntax-Write-Up--AcIbhZ1tPTCloXb2fmFpBTt~Ag-t9NlOSeI4RQ8AINsaSSyJ https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Await-Syntax-Write-Up--AcIbhZ1... I was definitely in the prefix camp before I read that document.

foota 7y ago
Thanks, I'd read the intro but missed that. I don't really see how they refute this argument though? Clearly they state arguments both in favor of postfix and prefix but it feels like some framework for weighing the arguments is missing, otherwise it just comes down to how individuals weigh the arguments.
- holy_city 7y ago
  That document isn't about arguing one way or the other, it lists all the different options and pros/cons. The post thread is the current stance of the lang team and letting everyone know they're going to make the final decision later this month. Boats' keynote at rust-latam goes into some more detail as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skos4B5x7qE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skos4B5x7qE I'm just a casual observer here, but it seems like just about every argument and position on the subject has been iterated across Github, internals.rust-lang.org, the IRC/Discourse/Zulip chats, Reddit, and now HN. This post by boats is just the next stepping stone alerting the community to the direction the team is leading and that it's going to be over soon.
agency 7y ago
Thanks for the link. As an outsider I also thought it seemed weird given so many other languages use prefix, but it makes sense with this framing that the main concern is the interaction with the ? operator.

foota 7y ago

Thanks, I'd read the intro but missed that. I don't really see how they refute this argument though? Clearly they state arguments both in favor of postfix and prefix but it feels like some framework for weighing the arguments is missing, otherwise it just comes down to how individuals weigh the arguments.

holy_city 7y ago
That document isn't about arguing one way or the other, it lists all the different options and pros/cons. The post thread is the current stance of the lang team and letting everyone know they're going to make the final decision later this month. Boats' keynote at rust-latam goes into some more detail as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skos4B5x7qE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skos4B5x7qE I'm just a casual observer here, but it seems like just about every argument and position on the subject has been iterated across Github, internals.rust-lang.org, the IRC/Discourse/Zulip chats, Reddit, and now HN. This post by boats is just the next stepping stone alerting the community to the direction the team is leading and that it's going to be over soon.

agency 7y ago

Thanks for the link. As an outsider I also thought it seemed weird given so many other languages use prefix, but it makes sense with this framing that the main concern is the interaction with the ? operator.