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"And no one argues about syntax." No one argues about the syntax, because everybody "wins" and gets their own syntax as a result, which is often held up as a k
by jerf 8y ago
"And no one argues about syntax."
No one argues about the syntax, because everybody "wins" and gets their own syntax as a result, which is often held up as a key part of the explanation for why the Lisp family languages are wonderful and fun and mind-expanding and just awesome in every way... yet rarely escape from "niche" status and are yet to even threaten to break into the really top-tier languages.
Because languages like Rust and Go, and Python and Java and honestly almost every other non-Lisp family language, want more cohesion in their codebases, they need a different solution to the problem.
- zzzcpan 8y agoFragmentation cannot really be an issue for adoption, as it happens after adoption.
- majewsky 8y agoSo the Linux desktop will only become fragmented after the mythical "year of Linux on the desktop"?
- zzzcpan 8y agoI'd say fragmentation hurts retention, which only has secondary effect on adoption.
- frenchy 8y agoYeah, but any language more popular than brainfuck has some level of adoption. Your language doesn't have to be super popular to start having adoptions issues.
- jerf 8y ago"I'd say fragmentation hurts retention, which only has secondary effect on adoption." I have no idea how you come to that conclusion. Any conceivable model for adoption I can imagine is a differential equation which contains "current adoption" as a term going into the first derivative. If people are leaving a language faster than people are coming in (and I speak in general, not claiming this about any particular language), retention is going to have major effects on adoption and the lack thereof.
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- bobbylarrybobby 8y agohttp://winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html http://winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html
- kazinator 8y agoThat's just a meme from that Lisp Curse article and wherevernot; it's not spread by people who have actually worked in a Lisp code base.