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> meat is unhealthy - period. It's a nice to have but it is at the end of the day just not good for you. [citation needed]

rv-de 7y ago
I just invested 17 seconds into your health, buddy :) Here you go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26780279 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26780279
- cbnotfromthere 7y ago
  "red meat and particularly of processed meat" Long story short: the findings are NOT about meat consumption.
- whiskers08xmt 7y ago
  Important note here is that it's primarily red and processed meat. I think fish and poultry are still considered healthy in moderate amounts.
- khalilravanna 7y ago
  Not to be a pedant but the study states "increasing amounts of red meat and particularly of processed meat" and even says the negative association "has been absent with white meat". I imagine the [citation needed] comment was more calling all out the blanket-ness of "meat is unhealthy - period". I think it'd be more accurate to say "large amounts of meat, especially red meat, are unhealthy - period".
- mfatica 7y ago
  Not sure how that proves "meat is unhealthy - period." This study specifically calls out red meat and processed meat. It says nothing about poultry or fish. Did you read the entire abstract? > The association has not always been noted with red meat, and it has been absent with white meat. So white meat is fine. Furthermore, the protein need is so great that for those over 70, restrictive recommendations should not be applied: > Restrictive recommendations should not be applied to subjects above about 70 years of age, as the studies quoted herein did not examine this age group, and the inclusion of sufficient protein supply (e. g. in the form of meat) is particularly important in the elderly. So, pretty obviously shown from your own source that "meat is unhealthy - period" is a false claim.
- slm_HN 7y ago
  As others have already pointed out that paper doesn't say meat is bad, it says that the culprit is processed red meat. It's not the meat that's bad, it's the vat of carcinogenic chemicals that processes the meat that's the problem. Just think about it a little bit, man evolved over hundreds of thousands of years eating meat, there's no way that it's bad for you.

rv-de 7y ago

I just invested 17 seconds into your health, buddy :) Here you go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26780279 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26780279

cbnotfromthere 7y ago
"red meat and particularly of processed meat" Long story short: the findings are NOT about meat consumption.
whiskers08xmt 7y ago
Important note here is that it's primarily red and processed meat. I think fish and poultry are still considered healthy in moderate amounts.
khalilravanna 7y ago
Not to be a pedant but the study states "increasing amounts of red meat and particularly of processed meat" and even says the negative association "has been absent with white meat". I imagine the [citation needed] comment was more calling all out the blanket-ness of "meat is unhealthy - period". I think it'd be more accurate to say "large amounts of meat, especially red meat, are unhealthy - period".
mfatica 7y ago
Not sure how that proves "meat is unhealthy - period." This study specifically calls out red meat and processed meat. It says nothing about poultry or fish. Did you read the entire abstract? > The association has not always been noted with red meat, and it has been absent with white meat. So white meat is fine. Furthermore, the protein need is so great that for those over 70, restrictive recommendations should not be applied: > Restrictive recommendations should not be applied to subjects above about 70 years of age, as the studies quoted herein did not examine this age group, and the inclusion of sufficient protein supply (e. g. in the form of meat) is particularly important in the elderly. So, pretty obviously shown from your own source that "meat is unhealthy - period" is a false claim.
slm_HN 7y ago
As others have already pointed out that paper doesn't say meat is bad, it says that the culprit is processed red meat. It's not the meat that's bad, it's the vat of carcinogenic chemicals that processes the meat that's the problem. Just think about it a little bit, man evolved over hundreds of thousands of years eating meat, there's no way that it's bad for you.