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Abuse is possible with almost anything. People abuse food, cars, social media, politics and a lot of other things. I agree that mushrooms are probably not as ad
by maxxxxx 7y ago
Abuse is possible with almost anything. People abuse food, cars, social media, politics and a lot of other things. I agree that mushrooms are probably not as addictive as other drugs but declaring that nobody will abuse them makes no sense.
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoAs you keep expanding the list of things people "abuse" your definition of "abuse" gets closer and closer to "use in a way I don't like".
- maxxxxx 7y agoI meant “use in a way that’s detrimental to them or others “. How is abuse defined anyway?
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago>use in a way that’s detrimental to them or others But that's so vague it's basically meaningless. If you drink enough alcohol to be hung over is that "abuse"? Only the most uptight people would say it is. Similarly, any recreational activity that costs money and results in that money being unavailable for things that other people consider a more important could be considered "detrimental to one's self" and therefore abuse by that metric. I assure you the guy who lives in a trailer with a Corvette in the driveway is not "abusing" cars, he's making a decision that reflects his priorities.
- dtech 7y agoIt's not a very useful definition of abuse. Big mac's or running shoes can also be "abused" according to that definition, yet if someone wanted to ban Big Mac's or running shoes because of potential abuse they'd not be taken seriously.
- maxxxxx 7y agoThat’s my point. When you look around you can clearly see that some food items have very negative consequences but we don’t prohibit them. So we shouldn’t prohibit other substances that may have the same or less level of risk.
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- RankingMember 7y agoFrom what I understand psilocybin is sort of like melatonin in that you get no added benefit from taking more than the dose that has the intended effect. You won't die from taking too much of either. It's easier to OD and die on water than either of those substances, and at that point, isn't the definition of abuse becoming a bit too broad?
- maxxxxx 7y agoI hear similar things about Marijuana but I have seen people who smoked way too much until their personal and professional lives suffered. One thing is physical dependency but there is also psychological dependency. All I m trying to say is that it's dangerous to say "there is no addiction risk in mushrooms. They are totally benign". If you say that it will be really easy for opponents to find counterexamples. Instead we should say they are not more dangerous than already legal things so there is no point in prohibiting mushrooms while other similarly harmful things are legal. .
- elevenoh 7y agoYes this is true. From experience i'd estimate there's a 40% increase in tolerance/unit for each subsequent day used.