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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking Stalking is unwanted and/or repeated surveillance by an individual or group towar
by paulus_magnus2 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking
Stalking is unwanted and/or repeated surveillance by an individual or group towards another person.[1] Stalking behaviors are interrelated to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person or monitoring them. The term stalking is used with some differing definitions in psychiatry and psychology, as well as in some legal jurisdictions as a term for a criminal offense.
This should also apply in the digital world. Doesn't it?
- codetrotter 7y agoWell, there is something called cyberstalking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking I don’t think you will be able to convince a court that browser fingerprinting is cyberstalking though, but you could certainly try.
- z1r011 7y agoCynical mode: The law suit would be very expensive, but imho. possible to get to the next round. This elevates for several instances, until you're out of money and the lawyers can burry it.
- munk-a 7y agoAnd, if it came to a lawsuit, you'd be up against Amazon, Facebook and Google all at once (among others).
- dredmorbius 7y agoYou can choose your battles. There's no need or obligation to take on all targets, and the legal strategy of first pursuing a tractable, or even sympathetic (to your interests) target is well established. The cyberstalking industry has many players. Most are small. A target-rich environment. Shifting the investment or financing calculus, via increased investor risk, possibly including legal liability, would be huge.
- fghtr 7y agoSo we need an organization like EFF for that.
- closeparen 7y agoNoticing and remembering people's faces, clothes, tics, etc. when they walk up to you and interact is not stalking.
- Panino 7y agoThat is a fair point, for sure. But I don't think it's the whole story. What about this: Noticing and remembering people's faces, clothes, tics, etc. when they walk up to you. Also you have blanketed the planet in cameras that all feed back to a giant database that builds a detailed dossier on almost everyone, based on faces, clothes, tics, etc. The way you put it sounds almost accidental, like no effort was made, with no real goal in mind. That's not a faithful analogy of the pervasiveness of Google Analytics, Facebook buttons, etc.
- vbuwivbiu 7y agohuman memory isn't comparable to digital memory. When we recall a person's face we've interacted with we don't beam that information telepathically to others and we (most of us) gradually forget the face over time.
- paulus_magnus2 7y agoNoticing in itself isn't but we're talking about amassing surveillance intel on people, bundling into packages and selling to the highest bidder. Or selling to hackers on black market. Normally you'd need a private detective licence and a good reason for each tracked person.
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- pmiller2 7y agoThis is really more like sousveillance[0]. I'm not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand, recording server logs has been standard and accepted practice pretty much since there were web servers. On the other hand, we have the capability to record and discern so much more information now and to do more with that information once we've recorded it. Ultimately, I think it should require user consent. (And, speaking of consent, I wonder if simple fingerprinting and associating a browser with an ID would violate the GDPR. It's clearly intended to be "personal" to one particular user, but is it "identifiable" information? Does it matter?) [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance
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