> what's your point against "sustainable" "Sustainable" is just a label, it doesn't in itself prove a) that the methods it describes are sustainable; b) that

> what's your point against "sustainable" "Sustainable" is just a label, it doesn't in itself prove a) that the methods it describes are sustainable; b) that the conventional, industrial methods are not sustainable. However, I agree that nothing natural can sustain a population of 7 billion. But we can try to concentrate the necessary unnatural food production on the smallest possible area, or use less technology and spread it over a much wider area.