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ZeroSpeech Challenge 2019: TTS without T

47 points by ivan_ah 7y ago

ivan_ah 7y ago
The final paper submissions deadline was April 5 2019, so we can check the results now: https://zerospeech.com/2019/results.html https://zerospeech.com/2019/results.html ^ click on the green (+) to see details for each submission including audio samples reconstructed.
vojta_letal 7y ago
Super interesting. Yet IMO kids have more than a text available. They have several senses, most importantly their eyesight. Hence this comparison does not seem to be on spot.
- jacobush 7y ago
  But blind kids also learn quickly to talk
  - jcoffland 7y ago
    They have touch, smell and taste.
ChuckMcM 7y ago
Evil much? This is, as described, a way to impersonate anyone else on the phone. I can see the abuse of that capability combined with caller ID spoofing, a crook could drain the bank accounts of half the elderly population of any developed country.
- ozzmotik 7y ago
  so could anyone with a predilection towards voice acting and a proper understanding of how to imitate others. one way or another, bad things are going to happen because there will always be people who will use their skills or tools for purposes other than what they are intended for. i don't think it's a valid argument to dismiss the utility and power of something just because people might do what people have always done.
  - ChuckMcM 7y ago
    I see it as the difference between APTs and script kiddies. Anyone with an investment of time, and a certain minimum of skill, can reconnoiter a system, identify a weakness, exploit it for access and do bad things. The level of investment is high, so the expected reward has to be worth it. Once exploits are packaged into a piece of code you can just install and run and have it break into random systems, the investment is low so you for systems vulnerable to those attacks you get many many more incidents. Finding the requisite voice acting skills, training for the voice in question, and then identifying a number and calling it is a lot of investment in time and money and resources. (voice actors aren't cheap, especially if you're asking them to defraud someone's grandparents) But if this project is successful in being able to mimic a person's voice saying what ever you want it to say, then anyone hanging around a theme park could capture voice signatures, and relations, and then turn around and exploit the same for fraud without anyone else getting involved. To me, that seems like it would open up a large attack surface that is currently poorly defended at best.

47 points by ivan_ah 7y ago

The final paper submissions deadline was April 5 2019, so we can check the results now: https://zerospeech.com/2019/results.html https://zerospeech.com/2019/results.html ^ click on the green (+) to see details for each submission including audio samples reconstructed.

vojta_letal 7y ago

Super interesting. Yet IMO kids have more than a text available. They have several senses, most importantly their eyesight. Hence this comparison does not seem to be on spot.

jacobush 7y ago
But blind kids also learn quickly to talk
- jcoffland 7y ago
  They have touch, smell and taste.

ChuckMcM 7y ago

Evil much? This is, as described, a way to impersonate anyone else on the phone. I can see the abuse of that capability combined with caller ID spoofing, a crook could drain the bank accounts of half the elderly population of any developed country.

ozzmotik 7y ago
so could anyone with a predilection towards voice acting and a proper understanding of how to imitate others. one way or another, bad things are going to happen because there will always be people who will use their skills or tools for purposes other than what they are intended for. i don't think it's a valid argument to dismiss the utility and power of something just because people might do what people have always done.
- ChuckMcM 7y ago
  I see it as the difference between APTs and script kiddies. Anyone with an investment of time, and a certain minimum of skill, can reconnoiter a system, identify a weakness, exploit it for access and do bad things. The level of investment is high, so the expected reward has to be worth it. Once exploits are packaged into a piece of code you can just install and run and have it break into random systems, the investment is low so you for systems vulnerable to those attacks you get many many more incidents. Finding the requisite voice acting skills, training for the voice in question, and then identifying a number and calling it is a lot of investment in time and money and resources. (voice actors aren't cheap, especially if you're asking them to defraud someone's grandparents) But if this project is successful in being able to mimic a person's voice saying what ever you want it to say, then anyone hanging around a theme park could capture voice signatures, and relations, and then turn around and exploit the same for fraud without anyone else getting involved. To me, that seems like it would open up a large attack surface that is currently poorly defended at best.