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>> Stop flying to conferences This is not tenable for executive-level staffers. >> Reduce your meat consumption as much as you can. This is definitely an imp

>> Stop flying to conferences This is not tenable for executive-level staffers. >> Reduce your meat consumption as much as you can. This is definitely an impactful idea, specifically red meat by quite a large difference comparative to other meats. >> If you have any investments shift them from fossil to green. This is not really a tenable suggestion either unless you are suggesting everyone take a giant hit to yield and also mass purge a lot of their index funds that necessarily have large investments in energy companies, especially if they are large-cap. >> Don't upgrade your phone. No one should be doing this anyway on a regular basis. It's ridiculous for non-environmental reasons.

perfunctory 8y ago
> This is not really a tenable suggestion either unless you are suggesting everyone take a giant hit to yield Some believe divestment won't have significant impact on returns: http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/the-mythical-peril-of-divesting-from-fossil-fuels/ http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/the-mythical-per...
perfunctory 8y ago
> This is not tenable for executive-level staffers. Well, if we don't go (as in the entire development community) then the executive-level staffers have nothing to do there either.
52-6F-62 8y ago
> This is definitely an impactful idea, specifically red meat by quite a large difference comparative to other meats. This isn't exactly tenable for everyone, either. Some people [like me] need to fairly regularly eat red meat for the B12/Iron uptake benefits alongside supplementation. Instead the industry should be pushed toward larger changes like this: https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-eating-seaweed-can-help-cows-to-belch-less-methane https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-eating-seaweed-can-help-c... I'm increasingly convinced the solution isn't quitting everything that looks like a vice (good luck with that), but instead to develop methods for reducing or removing and reversing the harm they cause.
- selimthegrim 8y ago
  That’s exactly it though. Conservatives are no doubt irritated by environmental jeremiads because they know revivals and camp meetings when they see them. Usually when this seaweed reducing methane stuff gets mentioned you hear crickets from the hair-shirt crowd
  - 52-6F-62 8y ago
    I'm not really sure I understand what you're saying. Can you elaborate?
    - selimthegrim 8y ago
      I’m agreeing with you but I’m saying for a lot of environmentalists they have guilt they want to purge and a solution like that won’t do it.
      - 52-6F-62 8y ago
        Right— so you're saying a path that allows people to persist in their actions is unacceptable to environmentalists because it allows them to continue in their actions. More or less? I'm unclear where "conservatives" comes into play. I've never considered myself a political conservative, TBH.

perfunctory 8y ago

> This is not really a tenable suggestion either unless you are suggesting everyone take a giant hit to yield Some believe divestment won't have significant impact on returns: http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/the-mythical-peril-of-divesting-from-fossil-fuels/ http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/the-mythical-per...

perfunctory 8y ago

> This is not tenable for executive-level staffers. Well, if we don't go (as in the entire development community) then the executive-level staffers have nothing to do there either.

52-6F-62 8y ago

> This is definitely an impactful idea, specifically red meat by quite a large difference comparative to other meats. This isn't exactly tenable for everyone, either. Some people [like me] need to fairly regularly eat red meat for the B12/Iron uptake benefits alongside supplementation. Instead the industry should be pushed toward larger changes like this: https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-eating-seaweed-can-help-cows-to-belch-less-methane https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-eating-seaweed-can-help-c... I'm increasingly convinced the solution isn't quitting everything that looks like a vice (good luck with that), but instead to develop methods for reducing or removing and reversing the harm they cause.

selimthegrim 8y ago
That’s exactly it though. Conservatives are no doubt irritated by environmental jeremiads because they know revivals and camp meetings when they see them. Usually when this seaweed reducing methane stuff gets mentioned you hear crickets from the hair-shirt crowd
- 52-6F-62 8y ago
  I'm not really sure I understand what you're saying. Can you elaborate?
  - selimthegrim 8y ago
    I’m agreeing with you but I’m saying for a lot of environmentalists they have guilt they want to purge and a solution like that won’t do it.
    - 52-6F-62 8y ago
      Right— so you're saying a path that allows people to persist in their actions is unacceptable to environmentalists because it allows them to continue in their actions. More or less? I'm unclear where "conservatives" comes into play. I've never considered myself a political conservative, TBH.