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Does it also work on humans? Does taking a lot of antibiotics since birth makes a human stronger and taller? I've never seen bodybuilders taking antibiotics fo

Does it also work on humans? Does taking a lot of antibiotics since birth makes a human stronger and taller? I've never seen bodybuilders taking antibiotics for size tho tho heard of plenty of steroid and protein/testosterone stuff. But I know some chicken farmers in my neighborhood who double the chicken size with antibiotics.

nicwilson 7y ago
> Does it also work on humans? Does taking a lot of antibiotics since birth makes a human stronger and taller? Quite possibly. It will also bugger up your immune system maturation spectacularly. That doesn't matter so much for animals destined for the slaughterhouse, but it does for you because viruses aren't affected by antibiotics.
- gingabriska 7y ago
  But what if we consume those chickens, isn't that antibiotic somehow going to end up inside us sooner or later? And that will indirectly influence our size? Is there any pattern of size gain/growth in humans since we started using antibiotics on farm animals? One thing always have been mysterious to me is that growth/size is attributed to nutrition/genes/workout but I know some villages (more like distant tribes with no connection to modern world) who practise old style farming and heading livestock without any modern methods and they've plenty to eat but still they've not gotten taller or bigger. They've sheeps, goats, chickens, plenty of fruits and grains in their diet, lots of physical work but no size gain. And if the person from the same tribes comes to the US as a kid, you can see them get taller/bigger then their siblings back home. So it can't be their genetic limit.
b_tterc_p 7y ago
This would destroy your gut microbiome so bad idea. But yes I think it would work.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
  I don’t think it would work. A human with a borked digestive system will be incredible unfit. Cows have a fundamentally different digestive tract, and I’m going to guess antibiotics suppress or eliminate cow digestive tract biota that are normally commensal but for whatever reason slow their growth, either by consuming nutrients or excreting signally molecules, or otherwise contributing to a cascade.
  - gingabriska 7y ago
    Digestive system of chicken looks similar to humans and it works on them, so what gives?
    - b_tterc_p 7y ago
      I don’t think we know the mechanism by which anti biotics cause growth. I personally think the parent is correct but I don’t know why s/he implies it wouldn’t work for humans. I hypothesize that gut flora eat food in your stomach, breaking it down faster so it passes through your gut before being absorbed, and by eating the nutrients themselves. If you have no gut flora, more will be absorbed by your system. I similarly hypothesize that you could do a poop transfusion of skinny people with excellent metabolisms to aid in weight loss for fat people with terrible metabolisms.

nicwilson 7y ago

> Does it also work on humans? Does taking a lot of antibiotics since birth makes a human stronger and taller? Quite possibly. It will also bugger up your immune system maturation spectacularly. That doesn't matter so much for animals destined for the slaughterhouse, but it does for you because viruses aren't affected by antibiotics.

gingabriska 7y ago
But what if we consume those chickens, isn't that antibiotic somehow going to end up inside us sooner or later? And that will indirectly influence our size? Is there any pattern of size gain/growth in humans since we started using antibiotics on farm animals? One thing always have been mysterious to me is that growth/size is attributed to nutrition/genes/workout but I know some villages (more like distant tribes with no connection to modern world) who practise old style farming and heading livestock without any modern methods and they've plenty to eat but still they've not gotten taller or bigger. They've sheeps, goats, chickens, plenty of fruits and grains in their diet, lots of physical work but no size gain. And if the person from the same tribes comes to the US as a kid, you can see them get taller/bigger then their siblings back home. So it can't be their genetic limit.

b_tterc_p 7y ago

This would destroy your gut microbiome so bad idea. But yes I think it would work.

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
I don’t think it would work. A human with a borked digestive system will be incredible unfit. Cows have a fundamentally different digestive tract, and I’m going to guess antibiotics suppress or eliminate cow digestive tract biota that are normally commensal but for whatever reason slow their growth, either by consuming nutrients or excreting signally molecules, or otherwise contributing to a cascade.
- gingabriska 7y ago
  Digestive system of chicken looks similar to humans and it works on them, so what gives?
  - b_tterc_p 7y ago
    I don’t think we know the mechanism by which anti biotics cause growth. I personally think the parent is correct but I don’t know why s/he implies it wouldn’t work for humans. I hypothesize that gut flora eat food in your stomach, breaking it down faster so it passes through your gut before being absorbed, and by eating the nutrients themselves. If you have no gut flora, more will be absorbed by your system. I similarly hypothesize that you could do a poop transfusion of skinny people with excellent metabolisms to aid in weight loss for fat people with terrible metabolisms.