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So much apathy in this thread. This guy came to the US as a child (3 years old!), was educated in the US, became a criminal in the US, committed all his crimes

So much apathy in this thread. This guy came to the US as a child (3 years old!), was educated in the US, became a criminal in the US, committed all his crimes in the US and the USA’s answer to this is to deport him? Come on, the USA made the criminal and they should deal with him. Why should Somalia or Kenya have him on their streets? They didn’t turn a 3 year old into a criminal. You shouldn’t be able to send your criminals to another country. @OP, I would talk to a journalist as there’s a story here. You may then be able to get pro bono legal advice to have your original deportation thrown out, or perhaps the ability to claim asylum as you should be able to.

RickJWagner 7y ago
The USA made him a criminal? I completely disagree. The USA has many people with similar stories who did not become criminals and who were not forcibly deported. This guy made some bad choices. I'd think he'd prefer Kenya to prison.
- ZeroFries 7y ago
  Many people can live in smog and not develop lung issues. That doesn't mean those responsible for smog shouldn't also be responsible for the people who do develop lung issues from it.
DanBC 7y ago
> So much apathy in this thread. It's not apathy, it's realism. People living in the UK are aware of the hostile environment created by government around immigration. This phrase, "hostile environment", isn't spin created by opposition. It's the official term. OP has no chance of legally moving to the UK. It would be cruel to give them false hope.
badpun 7y ago
> Come on, the USA made the criminal and they should deal with him. Why should Somalia or Kenya have him on their streets? The situation is perfectly symmetrical, i.e. if a US-born child was illegally moved to Kenya at 3 years of age and became a criminal later in his life, Kenya can also just send him back to the US.
- albertgoeswoof 7y ago
  No because that child would be a Kenyan citizen and have the right to remain in their country. Also, he was not illegally moved to the US- Somalia was undergoing a humanitarian disaster & civil war at the time, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Task_Force https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Task_Force for the US support given on the ground. This would absolutely be grounds for seeking asylum.
  - DuskStar 7y ago
    Why on earth would someone born in the US to US parents become a Kenyan citizen just from living there?
gingabriska 7y ago
I think US didn't know that he came here at 3. They might have seen him as an illegal immigrant without any specific timeline and deportation might have been their usual process.

RickJWagner 7y ago

The USA made him a criminal? I completely disagree. The USA has many people with similar stories who did not become criminals and who were not forcibly deported. This guy made some bad choices. I'd think he'd prefer Kenya to prison.

ZeroFries 7y ago
Many people can live in smog and not develop lung issues. That doesn't mean those responsible for smog shouldn't also be responsible for the people who do develop lung issues from it.

DanBC 7y ago

> So much apathy in this thread. It's not apathy, it's realism. People living in the UK are aware of the hostile environment created by government around immigration. This phrase, "hostile environment", isn't spin created by opposition. It's the official term. OP has no chance of legally moving to the UK. It would be cruel to give them false hope.

badpun 7y ago

> Come on, the USA made the criminal and they should deal with him. Why should Somalia or Kenya have him on their streets? The situation is perfectly symmetrical, i.e. if a US-born child was illegally moved to Kenya at 3 years of age and became a criminal later in his life, Kenya can also just send him back to the US.

albertgoeswoof 7y ago
No because that child would be a Kenyan citizen and have the right to remain in their country. Also, he was not illegally moved to the US- Somalia was undergoing a humanitarian disaster & civil war at the time, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Task_Force https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Task_Force for the US support given on the ground. This would absolutely be grounds for seeking asylum.
- DuskStar 7y ago
  Why on earth would someone born in the US to US parents become a Kenyan citizen just from living there?

gingabriska 7y ago

I think US didn't know that he came here at 3. They might have seen him as an illegal immigrant without any specific timeline and deportation might have been their usual process.