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I lost my job for speaking up about women’s rights

15 points by cygaril 7y ago

jamewatson 7y ago
Sensible article, you are amazing
madshiva 7y ago
I feel sad for you but in the meantime now we can't argue more on the Internet and get instant banned if we don't agree. Like I don't agree with "Let Toys Be Toys" and already banned from Feminist of reddit. Thanks people that joined after the trend and now running Internet.
hashberry 7y ago
The biological sex vs cultural gender debate is rather fascinating because it comes down to categories and definitions. Each side can't agree on the "correct version" of reality because culture creates simulacrum (representations) that feel real and authentic.[0][1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacrum [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation
gehwartzen 7y ago
>Some transgender people have cosmetic surgery. But most retain their birth genitals. Everyone's equality and safety should be protected, but women and girls lose out on privacy, safety and fairness if males are allowed into changing rooms, dormitories, prisons, sports teams. I'm not sure I follow her argument here. Does she mean that fundamentally the presence of male genitalia in these spaces is the problem? That a transgender female is not acceptable in these spaces unless birth genitalia is removed at which point it becomes acceptable (independent of any other changes i.e hormonal)? And if so how does the presence of male genitalia make the space less safe? I assume because males have a higher rate of committing sexual assaults (which I guess is a fair argument). But then why would a penis attached to an otherwise female body pose a problem since I assume it is male neurobiology and hormones that drive sexual assault behavior (not the genitalia)
- anon1000 7y ago
  The author cites a number of sources which deal with "Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism" which asserts that Transwomen aren't in fact women at all. She emphasizes this with a tautology: >Trans women are trans women Which deviates from the trans-positive claim of "trans women are women". Her position is fairly clear in that she doesn't think of trans-women as being interchangeable with "real" women. From there, you can much easier derive her line of thought.
  - intarga 7y ago
    She only says >Transwomen are transwomen once, in an effort to sound reasonable. The rest of the time she just calls them men...
lsaferite 7y ago
I find this reminds me of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... Every group eventually finds itself under attack at some point. How they respond when _other_ groups are under attack is what tells the most about any group IMHO. I say this as someone with no strong opinion in any direction on the issues raised in the article.
intarga 7y ago
It seems that she was actually fired for targeted abuse of a colleague... >I've got a Q for my male twitter friends who have pledged not to appear on all male panels - if u were invited on a panel w Pip Bunce - one of FT's top 100 female champions of women in biz & another guy would u say yes or call the organisers & say sorry i don't do #manels? >This question sparked several threads of discussion and I wrote about 150 tweets over the course of a week [...] The tone of these discussions was one of ordinary discussion and disagreement, but not long after I received an email from HR

15 points by cygaril 7y ago

Sensible article, you are amazing

I feel sad for you but in the meantime now we can't argue more on the Internet and get instant banned if we don't agree. Like I don't agree with "Let Toys Be Toys" and already banned from Feminist of reddit. Thanks people that joined after the trend and now running Internet.

hashberry 7y ago

The biological sex vs cultural gender debate is rather fascinating because it comes down to categories and definitions. Each side can't agree on the "correct version" of reality because culture creates simulacrum (representations) that feel real and authentic.[0][1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacrum [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

gehwartzen 7y ago

>Some transgender people have cosmetic surgery. But most retain their birth genitals. Everyone's equality and safety should be protected, but women and girls lose out on privacy, safety and fairness if males are allowed into changing rooms, dormitories, prisons, sports teams. I'm not sure I follow her argument here. Does she mean that fundamentally the presence of male genitalia in these spaces is the problem? That a transgender female is not acceptable in these spaces unless birth genitalia is removed at which point it becomes acceptable (independent of any other changes i.e hormonal)? And if so how does the presence of male genitalia make the space less safe? I assume because males have a higher rate of committing sexual assaults (which I guess is a fair argument). But then why would a penis attached to an otherwise female body pose a problem since I assume it is male neurobiology and hormones that drive sexual assault behavior (not the genitalia)

anon1000 7y ago
The author cites a number of sources which deal with "Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism" which asserts that Transwomen aren't in fact women at all. She emphasizes this with a tautology: >Trans women are trans women Which deviates from the trans-positive claim of "trans women are women". Her position is fairly clear in that she doesn't think of trans-women as being interchangeable with "real" women. From there, you can much easier derive her line of thought.
- intarga 7y ago
  She only says >Transwomen are transwomen once, in an effort to sound reasonable. The rest of the time she just calls them men...

lsaferite 7y ago

I find this reminds me of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... Every group eventually finds itself under attack at some point. How they respond when _other_ groups are under attack is what tells the most about any group IMHO. I say this as someone with no strong opinion in any direction on the issues raised in the article.

intarga 7y ago

It seems that she was actually fired for targeted abuse of a colleague... >I've got a Q for my male twitter friends who have pledged not to appear on all male panels - if u were invited on a panel w Pip Bunce - one of FT's top 100 female champions of women in biz & another guy would u say yes or call the organisers & say sorry i don't do #manels? >This question sparked several threads of discussion and I wrote about 150 tweets over the course of a week [...] The tone of these discussions was one of ordinary discussion and disagreement, but not long after I received an email from HR