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I came to US as a refugee left Somalia during war around 1992 I was young I'm 30 years old now.

leaveyou 7y ago
Look on the positive side. You escaped a war, you got to see US in between and probably you got a better education than many Somalian kids. Just put it to good use and you'll be fine.
- gridlockd 7y ago
  > ...you got a better education than many Somalian kids. Just put it to good use and you'll be fine. What do you base this incredibly questionable assumption on?
  - rmdashrfstar 7y ago
    Because it's Somalia? Don't act so incredulous when comparing a third world and first world country. He should use his likely very nice, first world education to improve the country he lives in. He already has been convicted of robbery and drug sales, so it's not like he was removed for an unfair reason. He had his shot and blew it.
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    - gridlockd 7y ago
      > He should use his likely very nice, first world education to improve the country he lives in. Have you been through a US highschool? Beyond (hopefully) learning how to read and write and perform basic math, what good is any of this "very nice" education if you're out on the streets? Do you sincerely believe they'll roll out the red carpet for you in Kenya if you flaunt your highschool attendance? If so, why hasn't that happened yet? What do you know that they don't know?
  - fsloth 7y ago
    You may confuse basic demographic analysis with racism. Don't go there. People can have shitty countries regardless of their ethnicity. It is well known most African countries have huge problems in providing basic education. Somalia included: https://borgenproject.org/tag/literacy-in-somalia/ https://borgenproject.org/tag/literacy-in-somalia/ "The total literacy rate is 37.8 percent in the African nation. Men have a literacy rate of 49.7 percent, while only 25.8 percent of females are literate, " https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-highest-literacy-rates-in-the-world.html https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-highest-literacy-rat... US, while not famous for it's performance in this field, clocks in at 86%. I would give 9/10 chances you will get better primary education in US than in Somalia based on those numbers. There are many reasons Africa has many complex problems. Lack of decent primary education is one of those problems (and the root cause of other problems). Edit: ... unless, of course, you are critizing the suggestion that you can put a primary education to any good use in a foreign country, without any understanding of the rules of the society, the patterns of daily life and no networks. Which is totally correct. Your answer can actually be parsed into two compeletely different connotations.
    - gridlockd 7y ago
      I'm questioning the "Use your education and you'll be fine" statement directed at a homeless person in Kenya, without any further context. We don't even know that person's educational background, beyond the fact that they're capable of writing basic English. That person has problems finding water to drink. I guess that's not part of the curriculum in the US. There's some missing information here between "use your education" and "you'll be fine". Maybe you'll get hired right of the streets in Kenya if you attended a highschool in the US. I wouldn't know - but neither does the person posing the question.
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  - leaveyou 7y ago
    Well US is a first world country, isn't it expected that it's more civilized and educated than Somalia or Kenya ? My intuition tells me that he had way more opportunities to educate himself in US, opportunities which other Somalian/Kenyan kids did not have and in consequence he has a head start and he should take advantage of that.
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zerr 7y ago
Why you weren't naturalized during this period?
- noobermin 7y ago
  He potentially never sought it out. I mean, there are people who never bother to finish high school or their GED.

Look on the positive side. You escaped a war, you got to see US in between and probably you got a better education than many Somalian kids. Just put it to good use and you'll be fine.

gridlockd 7y ago
> ...you got a better education than many Somalian kids. Just put it to good use and you'll be fine. What do you base this incredibly questionable assumption on?
- rmdashrfstar 7y ago
  Because it's Somalia? Don't act so incredulous when comparing a third world and first world country. He should use his likely very nice, first world education to improve the country he lives in. He already has been convicted of robbery and drug sales, so it's not like he was removed for an unfair reason. He had his shot and blew it.
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  - gridlockd 7y ago
    > He should use his likely very nice, first world education to improve the country he lives in. Have you been through a US highschool? Beyond (hopefully) learning how to read and write and perform basic math, what good is any of this "very nice" education if you're out on the streets? Do you sincerely believe they'll roll out the red carpet for you in Kenya if you flaunt your highschool attendance? If so, why hasn't that happened yet? What do you know that they don't know?
- fsloth 7y ago
  You may confuse basic demographic analysis with racism. Don't go there. People can have shitty countries regardless of their ethnicity. It is well known most African countries have huge problems in providing basic education. Somalia included: https://borgenproject.org/tag/literacy-in-somalia/ https://borgenproject.org/tag/literacy-in-somalia/ "The total literacy rate is 37.8 percent in the African nation. Men have a literacy rate of 49.7 percent, while only 25.8 percent of females are literate, " https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-highest-literacy-rates-in-the-world.html https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-highest-literacy-rat... US, while not famous for it's performance in this field, clocks in at 86%. I would give 9/10 chances you will get better primary education in US than in Somalia based on those numbers. There are many reasons Africa has many complex problems. Lack of decent primary education is one of those problems (and the root cause of other problems). Edit: ... unless, of course, you are critizing the suggestion that you can put a primary education to any good use in a foreign country, without any understanding of the rules of the society, the patterns of daily life and no networks. Which is totally correct. Your answer can actually be parsed into two compeletely different connotations.
  - gridlockd 7y ago
    I'm questioning the "Use your education and you'll be fine" statement directed at a homeless person in Kenya, without any further context. We don't even know that person's educational background, beyond the fact that they're capable of writing basic English. That person has problems finding water to drink. I guess that's not part of the curriculum in the US. There's some missing information here between "use your education" and "you'll be fine". Maybe you'll get hired right of the streets in Kenya if you attended a highschool in the US. I wouldn't know - but neither does the person posing the question.
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- leaveyou 7y ago
  Well US is a first world country, isn't it expected that it's more civilized and educated than Somalia or Kenya ? My intuition tells me that he had way more opportunities to educate himself in US, opportunities which other Somalian/Kenyan kids did not have and in consequence he has a head start and he should take advantage of that.
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zerr 7y ago

Why you weren't naturalized during this period?

noobermin 7y ago
He potentially never sought it out. I mean, there are people who never bother to finish high school or their GED.