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There are on-going costs of maintaining each type rating, so it isn't a one time cost. Also, you'd want most or perhaps all the pilots maintaining both type rat

by cmurf 8y ago

There are on-going costs of maintaining each type rating, so it isn't a one time cost. Also, you'd want most or perhaps all the pilots maintaining both type ratings, so they can still be matched with any 737.

phire 8y ago
Apparently, pilots can only be rated for one type at a time. So during the cross-over period, you will need two completely independent fleets of pilots, one to operate the old 737s and one to operate the new A320-NEOs. Each fleet needs to have different spare pilots to cover absences or overtime emergencies. And the pilots who currently are training for the new type rating can't be in either fleet. The airline will have to temporally increase the number of pilots until the whole switch-over finishes.
- spockz 8y ago
  Interesting, if this is the case it would also have meant needing a second set of pilots for the MAX if it received a different rating.
  - phire 8y ago
    It gets more complex. Airbus have designed their A320, A330/A340/A350 planes with almost identical cockpits and handling characteristics to allow cross-crew qualification. A pilot with an A320 type rating can take a 7 day course to become qualified on the A330 (instead of the 40 day course normally required). And they can maintain the type rating on both types simultaneously. Since the A330 shares a type rating with the A340 and A350, this allows a pilot to fly quite a few airbus planes. Given the Max is so close to older 737s, I see no reason why Boeing and the FAA couldn't come to a similar arrangement, were pilots can be cross-trained with a 1 week course and maintain simultaneous type ratings on both the Max and Older 737s. Boeing does have a few common type ratings: The 757 and 767 share one; The 777 and 787 share another. But as far as I'm aware, pilots can only be qualified on one Boeing type rating at a time.
    - CaptainZapp 8y ago
      Given the Max is so close to older 737s, I see no reason why Boeing and the FAA couldn't come to a similar arrangement, were pilots can be cross-trained with a 1 week course and maintain simultaneous type ratings on both the Max and Older 737s. Greed and hubris, would be my best guess.
- anticensor 8y ago
  > Apparently, pilots can only be rated for one type at a time. You can have endorsements for multiple ratings but you will need to renew each independently, which costs. It would cost twice as much if you want to maintain two type ratings.
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by cmurf 8y ago

phire 8y ago

Apparently, pilots can only be rated for one type at a time. So during the cross-over period, you will need two completely independent fleets of pilots, one to operate the old 737s and one to operate the new A320-NEOs. Each fleet needs to have different spare pilots to cover absences or overtime emergencies. And the pilots who currently are training for the new type rating can't be in either fleet. The airline will have to temporally increase the number of pilots until the whole switch-over finishes.

spockz 8y ago
Interesting, if this is the case it would also have meant needing a second set of pilots for the MAX if it received a different rating.
- phire 8y ago
  It gets more complex. Airbus have designed their A320, A330/A340/A350 planes with almost identical cockpits and handling characteristics to allow cross-crew qualification. A pilot with an A320 type rating can take a 7 day course to become qualified on the A330 (instead of the 40 day course normally required). And they can maintain the type rating on both types simultaneously. Since the A330 shares a type rating with the A340 and A350, this allows a pilot to fly quite a few airbus planes. Given the Max is so close to older 737s, I see no reason why Boeing and the FAA couldn't come to a similar arrangement, were pilots can be cross-trained with a 1 week course and maintain simultaneous type ratings on both the Max and Older 737s. Boeing does have a few common type ratings: The 757 and 767 share one; The 777 and 787 share another. But as far as I'm aware, pilots can only be qualified on one Boeing type rating at a time.
  - CaptainZapp 8y ago
    Given the Max is so close to older 737s, I see no reason why Boeing and the FAA couldn't come to a similar arrangement, were pilots can be cross-trained with a 1 week course and maintain simultaneous type ratings on both the Max and Older 737s. Greed and hubris, would be my best guess.
anticensor 8y ago
> Apparently, pilots can only be rated for one type at a time. You can have endorsements for multiple ratings but you will need to renew each independently, which costs. It would cost twice as much if you want to maintain two type ratings.
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