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Why on earth are you running such a massively outdated browser? You should at least switch to pale moon, basilisk, or another maintained browser. God knows how

Why on earth are you running such a massively outdated browser? You should at least switch to pale moon, basilisk, or another maintained browser. God knows how many vulnerabilities in the wild there are in 56.

beezle 7y ago
I don't think I or anyone else need to justify why they still use the 56 ESR instead of pale moon nor does that have anything to do with the question of whether there will be a fix for this version from Mozilla. Clearly a few feathers have been ruffled by even broaching the fact that many people still use the 56 version because crtical extensions still have no equivalent under quantum. Snark is not allowed even when asking a relevant question of whether there will be an update. Sad.
- icebraining 7y ago
  There is no 56 ESR; it jumped from 52 to 60.
codedokode 7y ago
Web devs might want to use older versions to test their site in them.
- Zekio 7y ago
  Considering that firefox gets upwards 70% of the users onto the latest version within 4 weeks or so of a new release, I don't see the point, doubt chrome is an issue for this as well, only reason I can see to support ancient browsers is if you have intranet web apps that only function is IE6-IE10 and you need to be able to run it there as well
  - silversconfused 7y ago
    Ever consider that some users cannot afford to upgrade? There's a lot of homeless people around here who only have phones (no laptops), and they are very old. Many run android 2 still. You must support established standards, even old ones, to remain good to all users and avoid prioritizing services for the wealthy. Otherwise, you're part of the problem.
millstone 7y ago
Is security the new motor powering the upgrade treadmill? God knows how many vulnerabilities there are in the massively outdated Windows 7, why don't you upgrade to Windows 10...
- roblabla 7y ago
  Win7 gets security updates until somewhere in 2020. After that point, anyone still using 7 will be better off upgrading to 8/8.1/10. Firefox 56 is not an ESR. It does not get security patches. From a quick look, there are public CVEs[0] that allow for ROP code execution almost effortlessly. Security was always one of the big reasons behind keeping browsers up to date (the other reason being propagating new standard faster). Besides, I wasn’t suggesting updating to latest firefox. I specifically mentioned pale moon and basilisk because they support old style extensions, while hopefully keeping up with the security fixes and other improvements to the engine going in mainline. [0] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-452/product_id-3264/year-2019/opov-1/Mozilla-Firefox.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-452/...
- lucb1e 7y ago
  Windows 7 gets security updates. But I do agree with your general point, fear of vulns pushing you to broken versions feels wrong. I've been on 55 myself (since 56 already broke some stuff) until a month ago, upgraded for security reasons, giving up convenient tab switching with the mouse, mouse gestures in view-source tabs, stable vertical tabs (tree style tabs is not super stable), quick toggles for javascript/css/proxy, etc. :/

beezle 7y ago

I don't think I or anyone else need to justify why they still use the 56 ESR instead of pale moon nor does that have anything to do with the question of whether there will be a fix for this version from Mozilla. Clearly a few feathers have been ruffled by even broaching the fact that many people still use the 56 version because crtical extensions still have no equivalent under quantum. Snark is not allowed even when asking a relevant question of whether there will be an update. Sad.

icebraining 7y ago
There is no 56 ESR; it jumped from 52 to 60.

codedokode 7y ago

Web devs might want to use older versions to test their site in them.

Zekio 7y ago
Considering that firefox gets upwards 70% of the users onto the latest version within 4 weeks or so of a new release, I don't see the point, doubt chrome is an issue for this as well, only reason I can see to support ancient browsers is if you have intranet web apps that only function is IE6-IE10 and you need to be able to run it there as well
- silversconfused 7y ago
  Ever consider that some users cannot afford to upgrade? There's a lot of homeless people around here who only have phones (no laptops), and they are very old. Many run android 2 still. You must support established standards, even old ones, to remain good to all users and avoid prioritizing services for the wealthy. Otherwise, you're part of the problem.

millstone 7y ago

Is security the new motor powering the upgrade treadmill? God knows how many vulnerabilities there are in the massively outdated Windows 7, why don't you upgrade to Windows 10...

roblabla 7y ago
Win7 gets security updates until somewhere in 2020. After that point, anyone still using 7 will be better off upgrading to 8/8.1/10. Firefox 56 is not an ESR. It does not get security patches. From a quick look, there are public CVEs[0] that allow for ROP code execution almost effortlessly. Security was always one of the big reasons behind keeping browsers up to date (the other reason being propagating new standard faster). Besides, I wasn’t suggesting updating to latest firefox. I specifically mentioned pale moon and basilisk because they support old style extensions, while hopefully keeping up with the security fixes and other improvements to the engine going in mainline. [0] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-452/product_id-3264/year-2019/opov-1/Mozilla-Firefox.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-452/...
lucb1e 7y ago
Windows 7 gets security updates. But I do agree with your general point, fear of vulns pushing you to broken versions feels wrong. I've been on 55 myself (since 56 already broke some stuff) until a month ago, upgraded for security reasons, giving up convenient tab switching with the mouse, mouse gestures in view-source tabs, stable vertical tabs (tree style tabs is not super stable), quick toggles for javascript/css/proxy, etc. :/