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Aftermarket quality is hit and miss though. In three categories there is usually: A. Chinesium crap that is worse than OEM B. Fair OEM replacement (often same

Aftermarket quality is hit and miss though. In three categories there is usually: A. Chinesium crap that is worse than OEM B. Fair OEM replacement (often same toll manufacturer as OEM) C. Improved quality and/or design to OEM, often to overcome a design oversight (see: Porsche IMS bearings, premium suspension dampers) A healthy aftermarket will have all three available, however it is easy for uninformed (and informed) drivers to wind up with A. Understandable why Tesla would want to avoid that even if theirs isn't a perfect solution.

threeseed 7y ago
Except now you have people waiting over a year for a repair. Seems like their perfect solution is less than perfect.
BoorishBears 7y ago
No shop respectable enough to be Tesla certified is going to try and put “chinesium crap” in your car anyways. The good thing about those cheap parts is they don’t try to pretend to be good parts, they’re “You get what you pay for” exemplified. So if a Tesla certified shop can fix a Tesla with a reputable aftermarket part (which they do for non-Teslas already) why not allow it?
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
  I can't fathom why your comment was downvoted. If the vehicle is within warranty Telsa should provide replacement parts anywhere in the US the next day. If the vehicle is outside of the warranty period the customer should be able to use any replacement part that meets or exceeds specifications. There nothing controversial about this. Edit to add: To be clear, I want Tesla to fail because I think Elon Musk is a massive jerk.
  - dang 7y ago
    Would you please not post flamebait to HN? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Spooky23 7y ago
  Tesla wants vertical integration and is willing to reopen the battle lost by GM years ago about warranties and parts to save a few bucks. It makes sense as long as the PR machine generates new customers faster than their operations teams piss off old ones. It’s also one of the big reasons Tesla fought so hard against normal franchised car dealerships. They can save money by providing shitty service and don’t need to worry about dealers making noise about Tesla issues or dealers telling them to piss off.
  - greglindahl 7y ago
    Can you point out any survey which shows that Tesla customers are pissed? Because Tesla has scored extremely well for brand loyalty in every survey I've seen.
    - Spooky23 7y ago
      I don’t track industry surveys and have no idea who is credible. I’d venture to guess that Model 3 waiting list folks who just got screwed won’t be very happy. ( https://electrek.co/2019/03/04/tesla-owners-protest-price-cuts/ https://electrek.co/2019/03/04/tesla-owners-protest-price-cu... ) Sounds like things went bad in 2017. Surveys tend to lag 2-3 years.

threeseed 7y ago

Except now you have people waiting over a year for a repair. Seems like their perfect solution is less than perfect.

BoorishBears 7y ago

No shop respectable enough to be Tesla certified is going to try and put “chinesium crap” in your car anyways. The good thing about those cheap parts is they don’t try to pretend to be good parts, they’re “You get what you pay for” exemplified. So if a Tesla certified shop can fix a Tesla with a reputable aftermarket part (which they do for non-Teslas already) why not allow it?

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
I can't fathom why your comment was downvoted. If the vehicle is within warranty Telsa should provide replacement parts anywhere in the US the next day. If the vehicle is outside of the warranty period the customer should be able to use any replacement part that meets or exceeds specifications. There nothing controversial about this. Edit to add: To be clear, I want Tesla to fail because I think Elon Musk is a massive jerk.
- dang 7y ago
  Would you please not post flamebait to HN? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Spooky23 7y ago
Tesla wants vertical integration and is willing to reopen the battle lost by GM years ago about warranties and parts to save a few bucks. It makes sense as long as the PR machine generates new customers faster than their operations teams piss off old ones. It’s also one of the big reasons Tesla fought so hard against normal franchised car dealerships. They can save money by providing shitty service and don’t need to worry about dealers making noise about Tesla issues or dealers telling them to piss off.
- greglindahl 7y ago
  Can you point out any survey which shows that Tesla customers are pissed? Because Tesla has scored extremely well for brand loyalty in every survey I've seen.
  - Spooky23 7y ago
    I don’t track industry surveys and have no idea who is credible. I’d venture to guess that Model 3 waiting list folks who just got screwed won’t be very happy. ( https://electrek.co/2019/03/04/tesla-owners-protest-price-cuts/ https://electrek.co/2019/03/04/tesla-owners-protest-price-cu... ) Sounds like things went bad in 2017. Surveys tend to lag 2-3 years.