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I wouldn't classify as "amateur" a commercial movie where the lead roles are played by professional actors, but that may be just me. The downvotes I got agree w

by kgwgk 8y ago

I wouldn't classify as "amateur" a commercial movie where the lead roles are played by professional actors, but that may be just me. The downvotes I got agree with you. (Being a bad movie may make it look "amateurish", but that's something different.)

reallydude 8y ago
> a commercial movie where the lead roles are played by professional actors, I'm not sure you've gotten anywhere, describing what professional means, when you make it dependent on other entities as an explanation. There are plenty of bad SAG actors. What about just saying "union production"? Although I think that's the minimal bar, there have been non-union successes...which don't look professional to me. eg https://www.reddit.com/r/acting/comments/a59tum/what_are_the_most_successful_nonunion_films_if_any/ https://www.reddit.com/r/acting/comments/a59tum/what_are_the...
- kgwgk 8y ago
  Are you suggesting that films can be classified as either “union” or “amateur”? Star Wars is an amateur film then. And saying “amateur porno” is redundant.
  - reallydude 8y ago
    > Star Wars is an amateur film then Based on what? There are many unions and they have changed and stabilized over time. SAG-AFTRA https://www.sagaftra.org/about/our-history https://www.sagaftra.org/about/our-history is the one that is distinguishing. The Director's Guild (which George Lucas and others, had spats with) or a writer's guild, etc have traditionally been little more than elitist extortion committees.
    - kgwgk 8y ago
      Based on the SAG boycott on non-DGA directors.
- perl4ever 8y ago
  The adjective "professional" can mean "performed up to the standards of a profession" or "performed for money". I think it's pretty obvious that you're responding to someone using the latter definition, and I very much doubt you are unaware of its existence. Perhaps you could make your point more explicit?

by kgwgk 8y ago

reallydude 8y ago

> a commercial movie where the lead roles are played by professional actors, I'm not sure you've gotten anywhere, describing what professional means, when you make it dependent on other entities as an explanation. There are plenty of bad SAG actors. What about just saying "union production"? Although I think that's the minimal bar, there have been non-union successes...which don't look professional to me. eg https://www.reddit.com/r/acting/comments/a59tum/what_are_the_most_successful_nonunion_films_if_any/ https://www.reddit.com/r/acting/comments/a59tum/what_are_the...

kgwgk 8y ago
Are you suggesting that films can be classified as either “union” or “amateur”? Star Wars is an amateur film then. And saying “amateur porno” is redundant.
- reallydude 8y ago
  > Star Wars is an amateur film then Based on what? There are many unions and they have changed and stabilized over time. SAG-AFTRA https://www.sagaftra.org/about/our-history https://www.sagaftra.org/about/our-history is the one that is distinguishing. The Director's Guild (which George Lucas and others, had spats with) or a writer's guild, etc have traditionally been little more than elitist extortion committees.
  - kgwgk 8y ago
    Based on the SAG boycott on non-DGA directors.
perl4ever 8y ago
The adjective "professional" can mean "performed up to the standards of a profession" or "performed for money". I think it's pretty obvious that you're responding to someone using the latter definition, and I very much doubt you are unaware of its existence. Perhaps you could make your point more explicit?