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I never really understood the reason for seizing an electronic device anyway. Surely if something was important / secret enough it wouldn't be _on_ the phone. W

I never really understood the reason for seizing an electronic device anyway. Surely if something was important / secret enough it wouldn't be _on_ the phone. What are they looking for, exactly?

zavi 7y ago
Why would it not be on the phone?
- antidesitter 7y ago
  Refer to the article of this thread.
sys_64738 7y ago
> What are they looking for, exactly? Probably anything incriminating. Human nature is laziness so if the guy was a baddie then there's a high chance something could be on the devices.
- fjsolwmv 7y ago
  Most violators of the law are not "baddies", unless you believe most people are "baddies"
  - jtms 7y ago
    Most people are not baddies, but some are. True malevolence is quite real unfortunately.
    - NullPrefix 7y ago
      >Most people are not baddies According to the moral sense or The Law? As in "Three Felonies a Day". Because gestapo doesn't have too much interest in the former.
  - sys_64738 7y ago
    LEOs prerogative is to see how you are violating the law. Their view is to gather all data which could turn into evidence at a future point. This is that scenario and LEOs do perceive us all as 'baddies'.
eternalban 7y ago
Intimidation and overt censorship. No doubt this simple device pacifies a good subset of society and promotes self-censorship.
javagram 7y ago
Most criminals don’t actually have great OpSec. I’m sure there are tons of phones that have incriminating photographs in the default camera app, or incriminating text messages or saved voicemails or who knows what.
- fjsolwmv 7y ago
  Most people don't have great opsec, and most people are technically criminals.
  - pkd 7y ago
    > most people are technically criminals. Wat?
- qrbLPHiKpiux 7y ago
  In reading crime stories from my area, this IS the case.
nikanj 7y ago
They are looking to toy with you. Power is a funny thing, especially when there is no consequences for abusing your power.

I never really understood the reason for seizing an electronic device anyway. Surely if something was important / secret enough it wouldn't be _on_ the phone. What are they looking for, exactly?

zavi 7y ago

Why would it not be on the phone?

antidesitter 7y ago
Refer to the article of this thread.

sys_64738 7y ago

> What are they looking for, exactly? Probably anything incriminating. Human nature is laziness so if the guy was a baddie then there's a high chance something could be on the devices.

fjsolwmv 7y ago
Most violators of the law are not "baddies", unless you believe most people are "baddies"
- jtms 7y ago
  Most people are not baddies, but some are. True malevolence is quite real unfortunately.
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    >Most people are not baddies According to the moral sense or The Law? As in "Three Felonies a Day". Because gestapo doesn't have too much interest in the former.
- sys_64738 7y ago
  LEOs prerogative is to see how you are violating the law. Their view is to gather all data which could turn into evidence at a future point. This is that scenario and LEOs do perceive us all as 'baddies'.

eternalban 7y ago

Intimidation and overt censorship. No doubt this simple device pacifies a good subset of society and promotes self-censorship.

javagram 7y ago

Most criminals don’t actually have great OpSec. I’m sure there are tons of phones that have incriminating photographs in the default camera app, or incriminating text messages or saved voicemails or who knows what.

fjsolwmv 7y ago
Most people don't have great opsec, and most people are technically criminals.
- pkd 7y ago
  > most people are technically criminals. Wat?
qrbLPHiKpiux 7y ago
In reading crime stories from my area, this IS the case.

nikanj 7y ago

They are looking to toy with you. Power is a funny thing, especially when there is no consequences for abusing your power.