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The evidence shows that CFS is triggered by stress or viral infections (which are physiologically stressful), and that it is associated with dysruptions to the

The evidence shows that CFS is triggered by stress or viral infections (which are physiologically stressful), and that it is associated with dysruptions to the HPA axis. Everyone I know who has recovered (including myself) has said that dealing with psychological issues is the most important factor in recovering.

GordonS 8y ago
Some evidence sure, not "the" evidence. Unfortunately I don't know any CFS patients that have recovered, or even gone into remission; for everyone I know, it's been a chronic condition.
- cpncrunch 8y ago
  >Some evidence sure, not "the" evidence. At least 4 studies that looked at it all found that it was triggered by stress or viral infection. If you're aware of any other contrary evidence, I'm interested. >Unfortunately I don't know any CFS patients that have recovered, or even gone into remission; for everyone I know, it's been a chronic condition. Here on HN there is myself and tomhoward for starters, and I know lots of other patients who have also recovered. We tend not to post too much in CFS forums, though, due to the negativity and hostility towards recovered patients.
  - GordonS 8y ago
    > viral infections (which are physiologically stressful) There is evidence relating to viral infections, yes. But is it really necessary to refer to such infections being "physiologically stressful"? I just don't see the relevance of that. > Here on HN there is myself and tomhoward for starters, and I know lots of other patients who have also recovered Sorry, I didn't mean to imply recovery wasn't possible, but re-reading my comment I can see how it might have come across that way.
    - cpncrunch 8y ago
      >But is it really necessary to refer to such infections being "physiologically stressful"? I just don't see the relevance of that. Viral infections activate the HPA axis...that is what is meant by "physiologically stressful". See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1224723/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1224723/ The relevance is that stress seems to be the common factor as a trigger, and the stress system seems to be dysfunctional in CFS.
  - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
    How did you recover? (Not an academic question. My wife has CFS.)
    - cpncrunch 7y ago
      You can email me at cpncrunchhn at gmail dot com

GordonS 8y ago

Some evidence sure, not "the" evidence. Unfortunately I don't know any CFS patients that have recovered, or even gone into remission; for everyone I know, it's been a chronic condition.

cpncrunch 8y ago
>Some evidence sure, not "the" evidence. At least 4 studies that looked at it all found that it was triggered by stress or viral infection. If you're aware of any other contrary evidence, I'm interested. >Unfortunately I don't know any CFS patients that have recovered, or even gone into remission; for everyone I know, it's been a chronic condition. Here on HN there is myself and tomhoward for starters, and I know lots of other patients who have also recovered. We tend not to post too much in CFS forums, though, due to the negativity and hostility towards recovered patients.
- GordonS 8y ago
  > viral infections (which are physiologically stressful) There is evidence relating to viral infections, yes. But is it really necessary to refer to such infections being "physiologically stressful"? I just don't see the relevance of that. > Here on HN there is myself and tomhoward for starters, and I know lots of other patients who have also recovered Sorry, I didn't mean to imply recovery wasn't possible, but re-reading my comment I can see how it might have come across that way.
  - cpncrunch 8y ago
    >But is it really necessary to refer to such infections being "physiologically stressful"? I just don't see the relevance of that. Viral infections activate the HPA axis...that is what is meant by "physiologically stressful". See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1224723/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1224723/ The relevance is that stress seems to be the common factor as a trigger, and the stress system seems to be dysfunctional in CFS.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  How did you recover? (Not an academic question. My wife has CFS.)
  - cpncrunch 7y ago
    You can email me at cpncrunchhn at gmail dot com