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I think that this suggestion that CFS might be caused by bad diet is even more irresponsible than telling it is psychological. CFS patients would wish that it w

by ufo 8y ago

I think that this suggestion that CFS might be caused by bad diet is even more irresponsible than telling it is psychological. CFS patients would wish that it were that simple. CFS onset is often abrupt, and can often happen to otherwise very healthy and active people. For example, a common story is that the patient becomes sick from a viral infection and then gets stuck with chronic fatigue syndrome even after the infection goes away.

benatkin 8y ago
> No one knows the cause yet If we can determine for sure that it's happening a at a much higher rate than in the past, we have a pretty good idea that the cause is the conditions that we live in. Diet that is one thing in which the changes over the years have been similar across different regions. If it was air pollution, the increased rates would show up in some regions but not others. Ditto radiation. I don't think this is like autism in that we were mostly oblivious to it in the past, but I could be wrong. Enlighten me.
- ufo 8y ago
  Even today it is very hard to get an accurate CFS dianosis. Patients often are diagnosed with as suffering from a viral infection, or psychological, neurological, or immune disease. They almost always only get a CFS diagnosis after all the other treatments fail. I definitely would not be surprised if it turned out to be present in the past, but misdiagnosed. One thing that certainly does not help is that the primary symptom of ME/CFS, post-exertional malaise, is counter intuitive. The pain and fatigue comes after a delay, which hides the cause and effect. Everyday physical activity can also be enough to bring back symptoms. This means that if you don't know what you are looking for then ME/CFS will appear to come "out of nowhere", like a mystery chronic illness.
  - benatkin 8y ago
    I don't think severe limitations in physical mobility were as common in the past. I'm not the only one who thinks this. The creators of WALL•E clearly think it as well.
majkinetor 8y ago
You could say that everything is essentially caused by bad diet. Not bad, in the sense that it is junk, but bad in the sense that it is not appropriate in given context. You can even brute force some congenital diseases with diet/supplements, see Bruce Ames work on it. https://lifeextensionvitamins.com/drbrucammego.html https://lifeextensionvitamins.com/drbrucammego.html
DanBC 8y ago
Why are you trying to say that psychological illness isn't real? Psychological illness have high rates of death, they cause years of life lost to disability, and they're serious and debilitating. Stop pushing ignorant stigma around mental illness.

by ufo 8y ago

benatkin 8y ago

> No one knows the cause yet If we can determine for sure that it's happening a at a much higher rate than in the past, we have a pretty good idea that the cause is the conditions that we live in. Diet that is one thing in which the changes over the years have been similar across different regions. If it was air pollution, the increased rates would show up in some regions but not others. Ditto radiation. I don't think this is like autism in that we were mostly oblivious to it in the past, but I could be wrong. Enlighten me.

ufo 8y ago
Even today it is very hard to get an accurate CFS dianosis. Patients often are diagnosed with as suffering from a viral infection, or psychological, neurological, or immune disease. They almost always only get a CFS diagnosis after all the other treatments fail. I definitely would not be surprised if it turned out to be present in the past, but misdiagnosed. One thing that certainly does not help is that the primary symptom of ME/CFS, post-exertional malaise, is counter intuitive. The pain and fatigue comes after a delay, which hides the cause and effect. Everyday physical activity can also be enough to bring back symptoms. This means that if you don't know what you are looking for then ME/CFS will appear to come "out of nowhere", like a mystery chronic illness.
- benatkin 8y ago
  I don't think severe limitations in physical mobility were as common in the past. I'm not the only one who thinks this. The creators of WALL•E clearly think it as well.

majkinetor 8y ago

You could say that everything is essentially caused by bad diet. Not bad, in the sense that it is junk, but bad in the sense that it is not appropriate in given context. You can even brute force some congenital diseases with diet/supplements, see Bruce Ames work on it. https://lifeextensionvitamins.com/drbrucammego.html https://lifeextensionvitamins.com/drbrucammego.html

DanBC 8y ago

Why are you trying to say that psychological illness isn't real? Psychological illness have high rates of death, they cause years of life lost to disability, and they're serious and debilitating. Stop pushing ignorant stigma around mental illness.