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Here's the dataset that I'm referencing.[0] From the summary documents, "DOD spending in the NHEA excludes spending that occurs outside of the United States." I
by pg_bot 7y ago
Here's the dataset that I'm referencing.[0] From the summary documents, "DOD spending in the NHEA excludes spending that occurs outside of the United States." I'm not certain whether this does or does not include forward operating bases. (Post offices count those as being in the United States so I believe they are included; but I could be wrong) Nevertheless it does include domestic spending on veterans.
Also, many veterans get care outside the VA. From my own experience working with these people, they cite long waiting times or broken relationships with the government for not wanting to take part in that system.
I'm not trying to downplay the complexity of the healthcare market, it's really complex. However, it I were to pick the things the government had control over and impacted the marketplace the most over the last 15 years, I still would pick the same things I did. I could fill several books with other changes that impacted the cost of American healthcare. (switching to e-prescriptions, subsidies for electronic medical records, medicare part D, certificate of need laws, FSA changes, HSA changes, consolidation of pharmacy benefit managers, health system consolidation, the opioid epidemic, the rise of the physicians's assistant, the expanding role of nurse practitioners, etc.)
I'd rather spend my time continuing fixing the things I know I can make better.
[0]: https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/NationalHealthAccountsHistorical.html https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta...
- tptacek 7y agoCan you give me a deeper link to the specific data from which you drew the table you posted above? There's a lot of stuff hanging off the link you just posted.
- pg_bot 7y agoHere are some more links, since I can't nest further. https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/NationalHealthAccountsHistorical.html https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta... https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/benchmark2014.pdf https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta... https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/HistoricalNHEPaper.pdf https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta... https://www.chcf.org/publication/us-health-care-spending-who-pays/ https://www.chcf.org/publication/us-health-care-spending-who... The main one you might be interested in is this one though, https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/downloads/dsm-14.pdf https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta... I've excerpted this from page 34 for your convenience. "Other public programs include health insurance coverage provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and the Department of Defense (DOD). Enrollment for other public programs for 1987-2011 was estimated using the levels from the enhanced CPS (SHADAC) and for 2012, 2013, and 2014 estimates were extrapolated using the CPS. "
- tptacek 7y agoNone of these appear to contain the table you posted at the root of the thread, the table you now claim also includes the increased cost of veteran care due to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Can you just tell me how you made that table, so I can look at the source and evaluate your claim that it incorporates increased costs in the VA along with private health care?
- pg_bot 7y agoThe raw data comes from the following sublink from the first link in that group "NHE Summary including share of GDP, CY 1960-2017 [ZIP, 27KB]"[0] I computed the table by hand. You can recompute it if you like. [0]: https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/NHEGDP17.zip https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta...
- tptacek 7y agoOh, for God's sake. The Kaiser foundation just tracks the stat we're actually talking about directly. Here's the numbers for employees covered by group insurance provided by their employers: 1999 2196 2000 2471 12.52% 2001 2689 8.82% 2002 3083 14.65% 2003 3383 9.73% 2004 3695 9.22% 2005 4025 8.93% 2006 4242 5.39% 2007 4479 5.59% 2008 4704 5.02% 2009 4824 2.55% 2010 5049 4.66% 2011 5429 7.53% 2012 5615 3.43% 2013 5884 4.79% 2014 6025 2.40% 2015 6251 3.75% 2016 6435 2.94% 2017 6690 3.96% 2018 6896 3.08%
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- pg_bot 7y agoCan you provide a reference for this data, I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking at. I deleted a previous comment on why I think the data I used is better for analysis but I want to confirm that this is what I think it is before I comment further.