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So many weird jarring points in this article. Self taught, but masters in physics? Takes 10 years to produce original research? Lots of PhDs graduating without

So many weird jarring points in this article. Self taught, but masters in physics? Takes 10 years to produce original research? Lots of PhDs graduating without publication? I'd say it might take 10 years to develop a taste for interesting research problems but it isn't at all unheard of for undergrads to get a paper for some research project they did in final year. I think it would be really rare for someone to get a PhD without a publication these days.

ghufran_syed 7y ago
Most undergrads who get a paper published are not publishing math papers. This stackexchange answer is relevant https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/48399/how-many-papers-should-a-phd-student-in-math-try-to-publish-before-graduating https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/48399/how-many-... Also this quote from a math professor, linked to in that SE link: "Many people get a PhD in mathematics before having a single accepted paper (I did), and if they have an eminent advisor who goes to bat for them, having no papers need not be much of a strike against them in the postdoctoral market."
- salty_biscuits 7y ago
  "Most undergrads who get a paper published are not publishing math papers." Err, I am not sure how to respond here. I said "it wasn't unheard of", which means when I went through I heard of a few bright undergrads getting publications in maths. It definitely happens. My personal experience says it would be extremely rare to get a phd now without a publication (again, in maths). It was different in the past. Hard numbers would be better than anecdata I guess.