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I'm not sure I care how unfair the characterization is. I heavily use container tabs — ahem, 'usecontainers — and all of my open container tabs disappeared at o

by rosser 7y ago

I'm not sure I care how unfair the characterization is. I heavily use container tabs — ahem, 'usecontainers — and all of my open container tabs disappeared at once, with no indication of why or what to do about it, when this happened. I lost an absurd amount of work and state because of that. I only knew what caused it by inference, because I'd just previously read The Fine Article (which, btw, gave no indication that losing state like that was something I should expect, merely, "No active steps need to be taken to make add-ons work again"...) I still prefer Firefox over all the other browsers, and will continue to use it, but the project has lost a lot of trust and goodwill over this. The optics are indeed awful, and this was fully preventable. Firefox fucked up, full stop.

thr0w__4w4y 7y ago
This is pretty much exactly my thought as well. Based on the timing of initial tweets and blog posts on this fiasco, I'm pretty sure I was in the first 10%, if not first 1%, of people who experienced this. And I was in a plane at 36,000 feet trying to work on a cross country (U.S.) flight when suddenly about 130 tabs in 7 windows disappeared. Really, REALLY bad. Panic, frustration, confusion... I was more than 50% sure that all was not lost forever, that it was some "glitch" (Extensions all showed the same bloody red status), but I was tweaked. I work in security (embedded systems, not computers/IT) so I have a very good understanding of certificates, TLS, PKI, etc. There are many ways things can get out of whack if the people in charge screw up. Regardless, this is embarrassing, dare I say shameful (pretty much almost up there with "Ooooppsss... we just lost our domain - it expired and no one thought to renew it) Come on, guys, get it together. Have a procedure, document it, practice it, stay in front of it.
toyg 7y ago
> I lost an absurd amount of work and state EDIT: after installing the fixed XPI, I have to sadly report that all data has gone. All my carefully-managed containerized life was wiped clean. Heads should roll. Complete shambles. And the worst thing is, I suspect it's all a plot to have more people opt-in to the shitty telemetry. Otherwise, why not push an update through the usual channels? Had it been a security-related fix, would have they used "studies"? I bet not.
- dao- 7y ago
  Locate your profile and look for session backups -- your data might still be there.

by rosser 7y ago

thr0w__4w4y 7y ago

This is pretty much exactly my thought as well. Based on the timing of initial tweets and blog posts on this fiasco, I'm pretty sure I was in the first 10%, if not first 1%, of people who experienced this. And I was in a plane at 36,000 feet trying to work on a cross country (U.S.) flight when suddenly about 130 tabs in 7 windows disappeared. Really, REALLY bad. Panic, frustration, confusion... I was more than 50% sure that all was not lost forever, that it was some "glitch" (Extensions all showed the same bloody red status), but I was tweaked. I work in security (embedded systems, not computers/IT) so I have a very good understanding of certificates, TLS, PKI, etc. There are many ways things can get out of whack if the people in charge screw up. Regardless, this is embarrassing, dare I say shameful (pretty much almost up there with "Ooooppsss... we just lost our domain - it expired and no one thought to renew it) Come on, guys, get it together. Have a procedure, document it, practice it, stay in front of it.

toyg 7y ago

> I lost an absurd amount of work and state EDIT: after installing the fixed XPI, I have to sadly report that all data has gone. All my carefully-managed containerized life was wiped clean. Heads should roll. Complete shambles. And the worst thing is, I suspect it's all a plot to have more people opt-in to the shitty telemetry. Otherwise, why not push an update through the usual channels? Had it been a security-related fix, would have they used "studies"? I bet not.

dao- 7y ago
Locate your profile and look for session backups -- your data might still be there.