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Soon they’ll be A/B testing stealth designs. “Model AST—12-7 flying over NYC generated 23 reports of UFO sightings, whereas model TYR-X3 generated 5 along the s

Soon they’ll be A/B testing stealth designs. “Model AST—12-7 flying over NYC generated 23 reports of UFO sightings, whereas model TYR-X3 generated 5 along the same route; moving forward, we should adopt TYR-X3 for all chemtrail operations...”

giancarlostoro 7y ago
With everyone glued to smart phones it is getting easier and easier to be "stealthy"
- RandomBacon 7y ago
  It's also a lot easier to get evidence.
- DuskStar 7y ago
  There's actually schemes to detect stealth aircraft through the changes in signal strength they induce in cell phones below their flight path. Not precise enough for targeting, but good enough to put up a plane to confirm...
  - heavenlyblue 7y ago
    Assume this only covers stealth planes flying below the height of the base stations?
    - RandomBacon 7y ago
      Not necessarily, but I still doubt this would be successful in detecting a stealth plane.
    - squarefoot 7y ago
      Cell towers are too low to use them to detect a stealth plane passing in between their antennas and anything on the ground, but satellites could be used. We're surrounded by radio signals originating from the sky, so at least in theory the right equipment could detect a stealth plane not thanks to the radio waves it reflects but the ones it doesn't let pass through itself.
      - heavenlyblue 7y ago
        It was a joke :)
  - RandomBacon 7y ago
    I suppose that's plausible, but is it realistic? What's the range of a cell phone signal? The signals from the cell towers will be aimed parallel with the ground. There is going to be an inverse square relationship with the signal strength and distance. A stealth plane is also more likely to be up way high too. The more signals there, the more populous the area, the more likely that a plane would be even higher. How many signals are needed for a disturbance to be noticed/tracked? Maybe if the stealth plane was 50,000ft or lower, but considering comercial traffic usually flies up to 39,000ft, and some private traffic at 45,000ft, you probably won't find stealth aircraft below 50,000ft.
    - DuskStar 7y ago
      > Maybe if the stealth plane was 50,000ft or lower, but considering comercial traffic usually flies up to 39,000ft, and some private traffic at 45,000ft, you probably won't find stealth aircraft below 50,000ft. F-117 service ceiling was 45,000 ft according to Wikipedia - B-2's is 50,000ft. Ironically, the B-2 has some design compromises to allow it to operate at low altitudes for penetrating strikes, as stealth wasn't quite as trusted when it was being designed - and low altitudes allow operating below the horizon from radar installations. (The B-21 renderings look like they've dropped those compromises - high altitude penetration only) I'll agree that using cell phones to detect the presence of stealth aircraft is more than a little dubious, though.
  - skunkworker 7y ago
    Passive Radar IIRC. Though I believe the 1999 F-117A shootdown in Yugoslavia was a result of the bomb-bay door detection.

giancarlostoro 7y ago

With everyone glued to smart phones it is getting easier and easier to be "stealthy"

RandomBacon 7y ago
It's also a lot easier to get evidence.
DuskStar 7y ago
There's actually schemes to detect stealth aircraft through the changes in signal strength they induce in cell phones below their flight path. Not precise enough for targeting, but good enough to put up a plane to confirm...
- heavenlyblue 7y ago
  Assume this only covers stealth planes flying below the height of the base stations?
  - RandomBacon 7y ago
    Not necessarily, but I still doubt this would be successful in detecting a stealth plane.
  - squarefoot 7y ago
    Cell towers are too low to use them to detect a stealth plane passing in between their antennas and anything on the ground, but satellites could be used. We're surrounded by radio signals originating from the sky, so at least in theory the right equipment could detect a stealth plane not thanks to the radio waves it reflects but the ones it doesn't let pass through itself.
    - heavenlyblue 7y ago
      It was a joke :)
- RandomBacon 7y ago
  I suppose that's plausible, but is it realistic? What's the range of a cell phone signal? The signals from the cell towers will be aimed parallel with the ground. There is going to be an inverse square relationship with the signal strength and distance. A stealth plane is also more likely to be up way high too. The more signals there, the more populous the area, the more likely that a plane would be even higher. How many signals are needed for a disturbance to be noticed/tracked? Maybe if the stealth plane was 50,000ft or lower, but considering comercial traffic usually flies up to 39,000ft, and some private traffic at 45,000ft, you probably won't find stealth aircraft below 50,000ft.
  - DuskStar 7y ago
    > Maybe if the stealth plane was 50,000ft or lower, but considering comercial traffic usually flies up to 39,000ft, and some private traffic at 45,000ft, you probably won't find stealth aircraft below 50,000ft. F-117 service ceiling was 45,000 ft according to Wikipedia - B-2's is 50,000ft. Ironically, the B-2 has some design compromises to allow it to operate at low altitudes for penetrating strikes, as stealth wasn't quite as trusted when it was being designed - and low altitudes allow operating below the horizon from radar installations. (The B-21 renderings look like they've dropped those compromises - high altitude penetration only) I'll agree that using cell phones to detect the presence of stealth aircraft is more than a little dubious, though.
- skunkworker 7y ago
  Passive Radar IIRC. Though I believe the 1999 F-117A shootdown in Yugoslavia was a result of the bomb-bay door detection.