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Switch to what? Chrome? Because you don't like having to re-opt-in to studies? That would be ludicrous given Google's privacy track record. Opera? They're owned

Switch to what? Chrome? Because you don't like having to re-opt-in to studies? That would be ludicrous given Google's privacy track record. Opera? They're owned by a Chinese investment firm now. Edge? MS's whole OS is based on data collection.

isoskeles 7y ago
Keep guessing.
- bencollier49 7y ago
  He has moved to Lynx.
  - floatingatoll 7y ago
    CVE-2016-9179 was published about Lynx in November 2016. Lynx took more than 5 minutes to release an update, with the fix included [1] in 2.8.9dev.11 not reaching a production release until July 2018 — almost two years after the CVE was published. With a response time like that, I don't see how Lynx will satisfy their "5 minute fix" need any more than Firefox did. [1] https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/CHANGES https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/CHANGES
    - isoskeles 7y ago
      Instead of pretending you're perplexed about my desire for a "5 minute fix", you can go back to the comment that said everyone here who has a problem with the issue Firefox caused is crafting a "narrative that appeals to emotion." Read that, I don't know maybe ten times, and then read my comment which said I just switched my browser, no emotion involved. I'm a man of action, baby. You can deliberate over my thought process all day, wondering if I would pick this browser or that one, or maybe even if I felt bad that I violated my loyalty to Mozilla Firefox (blessed be thy name). But don't think too hard, I've already moved on to the next decision in my life.
- cannonedhamster 7y ago
  Lynx, Midori, Safari, IE6. Maybe Palemoon, Samsung browser is another possibility. Maxthon was popular for a bit. Maybe you're super 1337 and run in only curl or wget.
ne0sapi3n 7y ago
Typing this from a new Brave install. Just switched from Firefox after their handling of this.
- emn13 7y ago
  The handling, or the bug itself? Sound like the damage control is fine (although worrying that they have no way to distribute hotfixes more rapidly than this). The bug in the first place, on the other hand, seems pretty negligent. Not that it's incomprehensible, just pretty stupid. Anyhow, good luck with brave!
  - ne0sapi3n 7y ago
    The bug in the first place. That we can't easily rollback this "upgrade" as well.
- icebraining 7y ago
  Have they stopped whitelisting Facebook and Twitter in their "tracking blocker" yet? The BS coming from their blog post surrounding this whitelist makes me distrust them completely: "Loading a script from an edge-cache does not track a user without third-party cookies or equivalent browser-local storage" (...) "Given that most users on the web share IP addresses with other users because of NAT, it is unlikely this can be used to reliably track users" Not only it's quite possible to know if the user is behind CGNAT or not, meaning the tracking works just fine for millions of users, but carriers have been known to inject user IDs in the replies of users behind CGNAT.
  - ne0sapi3n 7y ago
    Apparently not. Would there be a way via settings to just explicitly blacklist?

isoskeles 7y ago

Keep guessing.

bencollier49 7y ago
He has moved to Lynx.
- floatingatoll 7y ago
  CVE-2016-9179 was published about Lynx in November 2016. Lynx took more than 5 minutes to release an update, with the fix included [1] in 2.8.9dev.11 not reaching a production release until July 2018 — almost two years after the CVE was published. With a response time like that, I don't see how Lynx will satisfy their "5 minute fix" need any more than Firefox did. [1] https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/CHANGES https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/CHANGES
  - isoskeles 7y ago
    Instead of pretending you're perplexed about my desire for a "5 minute fix", you can go back to the comment that said everyone here who has a problem with the issue Firefox caused is crafting a "narrative that appeals to emotion." Read that, I don't know maybe ten times, and then read my comment which said I just switched my browser, no emotion involved. I'm a man of action, baby. You can deliberate over my thought process all day, wondering if I would pick this browser or that one, or maybe even if I felt bad that I violated my loyalty to Mozilla Firefox (blessed be thy name). But don't think too hard, I've already moved on to the next decision in my life.
cannonedhamster 7y ago
Lynx, Midori, Safari, IE6. Maybe Palemoon, Samsung browser is another possibility. Maxthon was popular for a bit. Maybe you're super 1337 and run in only curl or wget.

ne0sapi3n 7y ago

Typing this from a new Brave install. Just switched from Firefox after their handling of this.

emn13 7y ago
The handling, or the bug itself? Sound like the damage control is fine (although worrying that they have no way to distribute hotfixes more rapidly than this). The bug in the first place, on the other hand, seems pretty negligent. Not that it's incomprehensible, just pretty stupid. Anyhow, good luck with brave!
- ne0sapi3n 7y ago
  The bug in the first place. That we can't easily rollback this "upgrade" as well.
icebraining 7y ago
Have they stopped whitelisting Facebook and Twitter in their "tracking blocker" yet? The BS coming from their blog post surrounding this whitelist makes me distrust them completely: "Loading a script from an edge-cache does not track a user without third-party cookies or equivalent browser-local storage" (...) "Given that most users on the web share IP addresses with other users because of NAT, it is unlikely this can be used to reliably track users" Not only it's quite possible to know if the user is behind CGNAT or not, meaning the tracking works just fine for millions of users, but carriers have been known to inject user IDs in the replies of users behind CGNAT.
- ne0sapi3n 7y ago
  Apparently not. Would there be a way via settings to just explicitly blacklist?