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People can drive in major cities if they wish, but they should pay for the externalities imposed on residents. Both petrol and diesel cars pollute above accept
by esotericn 7y ago
People can drive in major cities if they wish, but they should pay for the externalities imposed on residents.
Both petrol and diesel cars pollute above acceptable levels, I'm not willing to accept that a car with "reduced pollution" is clean when alternatives are readily available.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y ago>I'm not willing to accept that a car with "reduced pollution" is clean when alternatives are readily available. That’s exactly what you just did when you said electric cars would be ‘ok’. In 2015 less than 25% of power was renewable generated in U.K. So pardon me, but my problem isn’t with your lack of understanding on the topic - it’s that you have strong and seemingly contradictory opinions that directly relate to what should and shouldn’t be “taxed out of existence”. I might be more forgiving if you say what you mean up front instead of moving goal posts. In this case, I think your original post you should have said “I think only rich people should be allowed to drive in London”.
- esotericn 7y agoI support carbon taxes as well. Crazy how far steelmanning can get you.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoSo by moving the goal posts, never being able to technically support your opinions, and being generally ignorant on the topic you have strong “everyone needs do as I say” opinions about... Has someone explained that to you as what a “steelman” argument is?
- esotericn 7y agoI don't think that people need do as I say at all. I think that the externalities of private ICE cars should be priced in. It is absurd that I can drive an ICE car about in London for an hour for less than the cost of a pint.