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No. Example: If a person made to ingest something that leads to immediate cardiac or respiratory failure we call it "poisoned to death". Same for "being stabb

No. Example: If a person made to ingest something that leads to immediate cardiac or respiratory failure we call it "poisoned to death". Same for "being stabbed" rather than "cardiac failure due to blood loss"

paulddraper 8y ago
Those are causes of death. ICD-10 has X85 "Assault by drugs, medicaments and biological substances" and X99 "Assault by sharp object". [1] But it is unprecedented (AFAIK) to specify an external cause that is so far removed from the point of death. E.g. assuredly people have died from the long-term effects of tanning, but "sun tan" is not considered to be a cause of a death. [1] http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online2005/fr-icd.htm?gx85.htm+ http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online2005...
- wbl 8y ago
  British law is not medical coding. Misadventure isn't a medical code and could cover many of the bizarre ones like whale ingestion.
- ppseafield 8y ago
  OK, what about lead poisoning? An environmental hazard, especially effects children, preventable, mostly affects poor folks and developing nations. This seems like it's pretty analogous.
briandear 8y ago
But she lived in that street for years. Just like someone might have eaten cheeseburgers for years and died of a heart attack. You don’t say that someone died from chronic cheeseburger ingestion.
- libraryatnight 8y ago
  Not being snarky, but perhaps we should. It wouldn't be untrue. When people drink their livers to death we often say they died of alcohol abuse even if we note they died of liver failure - seems reasonable if someone ate tons of cheeseburgers we could say they died of cheeseburger abuse etc. It's a bit dramatic, but could also be useful?
  - faissaloo 8y ago
    I'm definitely in agreement that we should say people died from alcohol overdose at least, maybe then people will take it seriously,
- chabes 8y ago
  There weren’t legal limits on cheeseburger ingestion, like their was for air pollution. This death was preventable, and not the child’s fault.

paulddraper 8y ago

Those are causes of death. ICD-10 has X85 "Assault by drugs, medicaments and biological substances" and X99 "Assault by sharp object". [1] But it is unprecedented (AFAIK) to specify an external cause that is so far removed from the point of death. E.g. assuredly people have died from the long-term effects of tanning, but "sun tan" is not considered to be a cause of a death. [1] http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online2005/fr-icd.htm?gx85.htm+ http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online2005...

wbl 8y ago
British law is not medical coding. Misadventure isn't a medical code and could cover many of the bizarre ones like whale ingestion.
ppseafield 8y ago
OK, what about lead poisoning? An environmental hazard, especially effects children, preventable, mostly affects poor folks and developing nations. This seems like it's pretty analogous.

briandear 8y ago

But she lived in that street for years. Just like someone might have eaten cheeseburgers for years and died of a heart attack. You don’t say that someone died from chronic cheeseburger ingestion.

libraryatnight 8y ago
Not being snarky, but perhaps we should. It wouldn't be untrue. When people drink their livers to death we often say they died of alcohol abuse even if we note they died of liver failure - seems reasonable if someone ate tons of cheeseburgers we could say they died of cheeseburger abuse etc. It's a bit dramatic, but could also be useful?
- faissaloo 8y ago
  I'm definitely in agreement that we should say people died from alcohol overdose at least, maybe then people will take it seriously,
chabes 8y ago
There weren’t legal limits on cheeseburger ingestion, like their was for air pollution. This death was preventable, and not the child’s fault.