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Sure. It probably is. I'm not sure what the point is. It's still something that I see on a regular basis, and it seems clear that I care more about it than oth
by greggyb 7y ago
Sure. It probably is. I'm not sure what the point is.
It's still something that I see on a regular basis, and it seems clear that I care more about it than others, because in my experience I talk about it more than others.
But the frameworks are not using standard IANA time zone names. Those look like "America/New_York".
The most recent time zone selection I made was installing OpenBSD on a new laptop yesterday. That had me choose a proper time zone name.
As best I can read your post you're implying that I am impugning the character of developers of applications I use. I have already noted very clearly that I think I just notice/care about this more.
You've also appealed to a couple sources of authority (framework maintainers and IANA). If I wanted to impugn the characters of those developers, I think I'd have good standing, as your authorities agree with me on proper time zone names. I don't want to do this, though. I don't think it's a big deal, because, as I've already mentioned, human communication offers much affordance for this type of technical incorrectness. I'm not confused. I doubt others are confused. I'm not frustrated. It just tickles the pedantic annoyance lever in my brain.
Wikipedia article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database
Tzinfo (note default examples using strings like I mentioned above): https://github.com/tzinfo/tzinfo/blob/master/README.md#example-usage https://github.com/tzinfo/tzinfo/blob/master/README.md#examp...
- scruple 7y ago> I'm not sure what the point is. Believe me, I'm having the same reaction right now. > The most recent time zone selection I made was installing OpenBSD on a new laptop yesterday. That had me choose a proper time zone name. If you don't understand the difference between you selecting "America/Los_Angeles" in an OpenBSD installation and the average user being confronted with a list of country/city names vs. a timezone name and offset then I feel sorry for your users.
- greggyb 7y agoLuckily, I get to avoid building time zone UIs in my day job. If I were to put it in a UI, I'd try to have locally understandable time zones as the labels, without incorrect offsets. I'd also probably try to give a better than a drop down selection of multiple dozens of options. I might not succeed, in which case I'd fall back to some lowest common denominator based on a survey of popular services. In any event, I agree with you that it is not a high priority for me, and would not be in any app I might develop.