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And who uses Dart? Elixir? Julia? Hardly anyone. Lots of attempts but also lots of failures, sometimes due to poor runtimes or libraries. Swift is iOS/Apple sp

And who uses Dart? Elixir? Julia? Hardly anyone. Lots of attempts but also lots of failures, sometimes due to poor runtimes or libraries. Swift is iOS/Apple specific, at least in usage. But mobile is dominated by Android, which is moving towards Kotlin. So Kotlin is already huge right there, much larger than Dart or Elixir and probably larger than Swift, soon if not already. Meanwhile Go would probably benefit from targeting the JVM, or at least having the option. As is, it's stuck in its own isolated world with low quality tools, libraries and GCs. At any rate number of languages is an odd metric. Kotlin by itself is a good enough language to probably kill off most attempts to compete with it over the next 5-10 years or so on the JVM, outside of research languages. Does the JVM really need dozens of languages?

dtech 7y ago
A lot of new languages fail. It's still a good measure of where things will be 10-20 years later. Look at new languages of 1990-2000: Haskell, Python, VB, Lua, R, Ruby, Java, Delphi, JS, PHP, Rebol. 4/11 are mostly irrelevant now. 4/11 are important niche languages. 3/11: Python, Java, and JS are dominant players. 1990-2000 might be special because of a massive shift toward IT systems in general, but it might not be and be an indication of languages lifecycle.
- int_19h 7y ago
  VB, Delphi and Rebol would be three of the irrelevant ones, but what's the fourth?
erik_seaberg 7y ago
> stuck in its own isolated world with low quality tools, libraries and GCs "Go needs a native library for ___" is used as an opportunity for safely tedious résumé-driven development. On the JVM you'd have to look for an unsolved problem which is probably harder.