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All of these are technical issues which will be solved by Google eventually, I'm not worrying much about that, they definitely have the resources to make it wor

All of these are technical issues which will be solved by Google eventually, I'm not worrying much about that, they definitely have the resources to make it work.

pjmlp 8y ago
I bet that in 5 years Kotlin will have as much market as other alternative JVMs languages have today. And regarding Google, Kotlin is not among the beloved ChromeOS and Fuchsia languages. So it depends very much on their internal politics.
- rptr_87 8y ago
  Is there any official language for ChromeOS? I believe it supports Most Android and Linux apps now.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Yes, it is called JavaScript. Android and Linux apps support is made via containers, aka they are not native to the OS, and isn't supported across all Chromebooks models being sold. And even then, there are support issues.
threeseed 8y ago
Kotlin is owned by JetBrains not Google. And there is Kotlin-Native but the likelihood of JetBrains reimplementing the entire JVM SDK is pretty slim. Not to mention all of the common third party libraries e.g. Guava, HTTPClient.
- realusername 8y ago
  > Kotlin is owned by JetBrains not Google. Yes but there's a lot of efforts from Google to support the language as well since now it's the new Android language.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Android supports Java, Kotlin and C++. Kotlin is just one option more, and the tooling is still not mature as Java. Specially in compile speed, incremental compilation, debugging, speed in type completion, FFI.
    - realusername 8y ago
      I would not put C++ with the other ones, unfortunately Android has a lot of API only available from Java.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Agreed about the 2nd class status of C++, still that is the official message, about all three languages. https://developer.android.com/guide/components/fundamentals?hl=en https://developer.android.com/guide/components/fundamentals?... "Android apps can be written using Kotlin, Java, and C++ languages. "

All of these are technical issues which will be solved by Google eventually, I'm not worrying much about that, they definitely have the resources to make it work.

pjmlp 8y ago

I bet that in 5 years Kotlin will have as much market as other alternative JVMs languages have today. And regarding Google, Kotlin is not among the beloved ChromeOS and Fuchsia languages. So it depends very much on their internal politics.

rptr_87 8y ago
Is there any official language for ChromeOS? I believe it supports Most Android and Linux apps now.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Yes, it is called JavaScript. Android and Linux apps support is made via containers, aka they are not native to the OS, and isn't supported across all Chromebooks models being sold. And even then, there are support issues.

threeseed 8y ago

Kotlin is owned by JetBrains not Google. And there is Kotlin-Native but the likelihood of JetBrains reimplementing the entire JVM SDK is pretty slim. Not to mention all of the common third party libraries e.g. Guava, HTTPClient.

realusername 8y ago
> Kotlin is owned by JetBrains not Google. Yes but there's a lot of efforts from Google to support the language as well since now it's the new Android language.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Android supports Java, Kotlin and C++. Kotlin is just one option more, and the tooling is still not mature as Java. Specially in compile speed, incremental compilation, debugging, speed in type completion, FFI.
  - realusername 8y ago
    I would not put C++ with the other ones, unfortunately Android has a lot of API only available from Java.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Agreed about the 2nd class status of C++, still that is the official message, about all three languages. https://developer.android.com/guide/components/fundamentals?hl=en https://developer.android.com/guide/components/fundamentals?... "Android apps can be written using Kotlin, Java, and C++ languages. "