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> this feels like a big blow to user trust. And yet every other major browser vendor has punched their users with far worse catastrophes of privacy, security,

> this feels like a big blow to user trust. And yet every other major browser vendor has punched their users with far worse catastrophes of privacy, security, ripping away features, breaking features, and general shitheaddedness. Switching browsers because of this incident is like ordering a burger at your favourite restaurant and one time it comes out without the meat patty, so in protest you switch to a crappy alternative restaurant that has had a long history of health code violations.

jchw 7y ago
I'm going to skip the analogies and just say this: If tomorrow this is still broken and I have a choice between installing Chromium, and installing Nightly + disabling security features, It's going to be a tough dilemma for me personally. I'm glad you have software/vendors you feel you can trust. I definitely don't feel that way about most software anymore. I do think you are being a bit hyperbolic regarding other browser vendors, but to each their own, I don't know what trying to argue about that would solve for anyone.
- omnimus 7y ago
  Well when you are google employee and you are testing code in firefox... you already have chrome and chromium installed. I think what is a real tough dillema is being sad about nonfunctioning adblocker while working for the biggest internet ads company. So are you working in chrome marketing department?
  - jchw 7y ago
    >Well when you are google employee and you are testing code in firefox... you already have chrome and chromium installed. I have computers other than my work computer(s.) I, indeed, do not have Chrome or Chromium installed on my home boxes running NixOS. I do not use my work devices for personal web browsing. I'm currently posting this message with Firefox 66.0.3 on NixOS 19.03. >I think what is a real tough dillema is being sad about nonfunctioning adblocker while working for the biggest internet ads company. > >So are you working in chrome marketing department? I'm a software engineer. I'm also over at Github: https://github.com/jchv https://github.com/jchv I work at Google because it's an excellent place to work. I'm far from elite; I didn't finish college (couldn't afford) and I grew up in the suburbs of Detroit, so being able to work at any large SV company is something I don't take for granted. I don't think any single employee can claim to love 100% of the things Google does, and that's fine. Nobody is required to. As for why I would use an adblocker, practically speaking it's both for reducing annoyances and increasing security. Malware (and 0days!) delivered via ads is not unheard of, sadly.

jchw 7y ago

I'm going to skip the analogies and just say this: If tomorrow this is still broken and I have a choice between installing Chromium, and installing Nightly + disabling security features, It's going to be a tough dilemma for me personally. I'm glad you have software/vendors you feel you can trust. I definitely don't feel that way about most software anymore. I do think you are being a bit hyperbolic regarding other browser vendors, but to each their own, I don't know what trying to argue about that would solve for anyone.

omnimus 7y ago
Well when you are google employee and you are testing code in firefox... you already have chrome and chromium installed. I think what is a real tough dillema is being sad about nonfunctioning adblocker while working for the biggest internet ads company. So are you working in chrome marketing department?
- jchw 7y ago
  >Well when you are google employee and you are testing code in firefox... you already have chrome and chromium installed. I have computers other than my work computer(s.) I, indeed, do not have Chrome or Chromium installed on my home boxes running NixOS. I do not use my work devices for personal web browsing. I'm currently posting this message with Firefox 66.0.3 on NixOS 19.03. >I think what is a real tough dillema is being sad about nonfunctioning adblocker while working for the biggest internet ads company. > >So are you working in chrome marketing department? I'm a software engineer. I'm also over at Github: https://github.com/jchv https://github.com/jchv I work at Google because it's an excellent place to work. I'm far from elite; I didn't finish college (couldn't afford) and I grew up in the suburbs of Detroit, so being able to work at any large SV company is something I don't take for granted. I don't think any single employee can claim to love 100% of the things Google does, and that's fine. Nobody is required to. As for why I would use an adblocker, practically speaking it's both for reducing annoyances and increasing security. Malware (and 0days!) delivered via ads is not unheard of, sadly.