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EU officials are totally helping things with Article 13 and Co.

by shmerl 8y ago

rasz 8y ago
For reference, _his party_ was pushing Article 13 in EU Parliament. September 12 everyone from PO voted for censorship: Michał Boni (PO) Jerzy Buzek (PO) Danuta Hübner (PO) Danuta Jazłowiecka (PO) Agnieszka Kozłowska-Rajewicz (PO) Barbara Kudrycka (PO) Janusz Lewandowski (PO) Elżbieta Łukacjiewska (PO) Jan Olbrycht (PO) Julia Pitera (PO) Marek Plura (PO) Dariusz Rosati (PO) Adam Szejnfeld (PO) Róża Thun Und Hohenstein (PO) Jarosław Wałęsa (PO) Bogdan Wenta (PO) Bogdan Zdrojewski (PO) Tadeusz Zwiefka (PO) Final April vote pro censorship: Danuta Hübner (PO) Agnieszka Kozłowska-Rajewicz (PO) Barbara Kudrycka (PO) Julia Pitera (PO) Bogdan Zdrojewski (PO) Tadeusz Zwiefka (PO)
- d33 8y ago
  I found it quite surprising and decided to double-check. This source doesn't seem to agree if I'm reading it right: https://saveyourinternet.eu/pl/ https://saveyourinternet.eu/pl/ Could you let me know where you have this information from?
  - rasz 8y ago
    you are right, I was missing Danuta Jazłowiecka (PO) so the final list is 7 for Article 13
    - d33 8y ago
      Either of us is reading it backwards - for example, Michał Boni is "green" in both "Vote on Possibility to Change the Final Text" and "Final Vote on Copyright Directive". Doesn't it mean he opposed it? Or is the first list of yours referring to a third voting, not mentioned on the website?
      - rasz 8y ago
        First list is "September 12 vote", the very first ACTA 2 one. Just for reference, official PO party twitter posted this https://twitter.com/platforma_org/status/1015184834623365120 https://twitter.com/platforma_org/status/1015184834623365120 "No to ACTA" in July, and in 2012 Tusk (very same from main topic, head of PO) officially announced Polish position as "categorical YES to ACTA, nothing will change our mind" https://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-z-kraju,3/premier-podpiszemy-acta-nie-ugniemy-sie-pod-szantazem,198325.html https://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-z-kraju,3/premier-podpiszemy... PO party is a Platform of corruption and lies, they used to change tune every poll/elections and are implicated in every major corruption scandal to date.

EU officials are totally helping things with Article 13 and Co.

by shmerl 8y ago

EU officials are totally helping things with Article 13 and Co.

rasz 8y ago

For reference, _his party_ was pushing Article 13 in EU Parliament. September 12 everyone from PO voted for censorship: Michał Boni (PO) Jerzy Buzek (PO) Danuta Hübner (PO) Danuta Jazłowiecka (PO) Agnieszka Kozłowska-Rajewicz (PO) Barbara Kudrycka (PO) Janusz Lewandowski (PO) Elżbieta Łukacjiewska (PO) Jan Olbrycht (PO) Julia Pitera (PO) Marek Plura (PO) Dariusz Rosati (PO) Adam Szejnfeld (PO) Róża Thun Und Hohenstein (PO) Jarosław Wałęsa (PO) Bogdan Wenta (PO) Bogdan Zdrojewski (PO) Tadeusz Zwiefka (PO) Final April vote pro censorship: Danuta Hübner (PO) Agnieszka Kozłowska-Rajewicz (PO) Barbara Kudrycka (PO) Julia Pitera (PO) Bogdan Zdrojewski (PO) Tadeusz Zwiefka (PO)

d33 8y ago
I found it quite surprising and decided to double-check. This source doesn't seem to agree if I'm reading it right: https://saveyourinternet.eu/pl/ https://saveyourinternet.eu/pl/ Could you let me know where you have this information from?
- rasz 8y ago
  you are right, I was missing Danuta Jazłowiecka (PO) so the final list is 7 for Article 13
  - d33 8y ago
    Either of us is reading it backwards - for example, Michał Boni is "green" in both "Vote on Possibility to Change the Final Text" and "Final Vote on Copyright Directive". Doesn't it mean he opposed it? Or is the first list of yours referring to a third voting, not mentioned on the website?
    - rasz 8y ago
      First list is "September 12 vote", the very first ACTA 2 one. Just for reference, official PO party twitter posted this https://twitter.com/platforma_org/status/1015184834623365120 https://twitter.com/platforma_org/status/1015184834623365120 "No to ACTA" in July, and in 2012 Tusk (very same from main topic, head of PO) officially announced Polish position as "categorical YES to ACTA, nothing will change our mind" https://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-z-kraju,3/premier-podpiszemy-acta-nie-ugniemy-sie-pod-szantazem,198325.html https://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-z-kraju,3/premier-podpiszemy... PO party is a Platform of corruption and lies, they used to change tune every poll/elections and are implicated in every major corruption scandal to date.