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I personally like a hybrid approach. I absolutely hate driving in a city, and trying to find (and pay for) parking. So I drive to a park-n-ride that is outsid

I personally like a hybrid approach. I absolutely hate driving in a city, and trying to find (and pay for) parking. So I drive to a park-n-ride that is outside the city, park for a couple bucks, then take light-weight rail into the city. This does require the physical ability to walk quite a bit once you are in the city, however, which a number of people can't do much of due to physical issues (starting to include myself in that category).

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
Park-n-ride has great quality of life but costs a ton because you inevitably wind up paying the cost of driving, parking and public transit.
- HeyLaughingBoy 7y ago
  Like everything else, it depends. It would cost me approximately $23/day to drive to work accounting for gas + parking, even more if I wanted to pay to use the HOV lane. Instead I drive to a park and ride and take an express bus. The total estimated cost is around $6 including my gas costs.
- vkou 7y ago
  > Park-n-ride has great quality of life but costs a ton because you inevitably wind up paying the cost of driving, parking and public transit. Somebody pays for the cost of your parking. If you're parking at work, it's your boss. If you're parking on the street, it's taxpayers at large. If you're parking in a park and ride, it's you. Park and rides are generally built in areas where the cost of parking is much lower then it is downtown, so the overall cost of a P&R + bus ticket will often be lower then driving and parking the whole way yourself.
- Can_Not 7y ago
  Maybe, but my feudal lord offers a discounted bulk public transit pass plus park-n-ride combo.
lotsofpulp 7y ago
I dislike the hybrid approach because that's what makes it impossible to optimize a community for either public transit or private cars. You can't do both at the same time, the resources that would make public transit amazing are being used up by infrastructure for private cars.
magicnubs 7y ago
This hybrid approach still requires purchase and regular operation of an entire personal vehicle, which will not be entirely attenuated by simply driving half as many miles. So if [driving] and [public transit] both cost x, the hybrid solution will definitely cost more than x, up to 2x, which means most people will only do one or the other.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

Park-n-ride has great quality of life but costs a ton because you inevitably wind up paying the cost of driving, parking and public transit.

HeyLaughingBoy 7y ago
Like everything else, it depends. It would cost me approximately $23/day to drive to work accounting for gas + parking, even more if I wanted to pay to use the HOV lane. Instead I drive to a park and ride and take an express bus. The total estimated cost is around $6 including my gas costs.
vkou 7y ago
> Park-n-ride has great quality of life but costs a ton because you inevitably wind up paying the cost of driving, parking and public transit. Somebody pays for the cost of your parking. If you're parking at work, it's your boss. If you're parking on the street, it's taxpayers at large. If you're parking in a park and ride, it's you. Park and rides are generally built in areas where the cost of parking is much lower then it is downtown, so the overall cost of a P&R + bus ticket will often be lower then driving and parking the whole way yourself.
Can_Not 7y ago
Maybe, but my feudal lord offers a discounted bulk public transit pass plus park-n-ride combo.

lotsofpulp 7y ago

I dislike the hybrid approach because that's what makes it impossible to optimize a community for either public transit or private cars. You can't do both at the same time, the resources that would make public transit amazing are being used up by infrastructure for private cars.

magicnubs 7y ago

This hybrid approach still requires purchase and regular operation of an entire personal vehicle, which will not be entirely attenuated by simply driving half as many miles. So if [driving] and [public transit] both cost x, the hybrid solution will definitely cost more than x, up to 2x, which means most people will only do one or the other.