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> There's no way the US government gets a say on what is allowed or what isn't allowed content wise with the first amendment as it is interpreted in the US. Th

> There's no way the US government gets a say on what is allowed or what isn't allowed content wise with the first amendment as it is interpreted in the US. The US government already has a say over that [0]. That's exactly what Senate hearings about "terrorist propaganda" and "election interference" on social media are all about [1], applying soft-power to send the message "You deal with this, or we will force you to deal with it", thus nudging these companies into self-regulation. [0] http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/the-cleaners/ http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/the-cleaners/ [1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/5/17823280/facebook-twitter-hearings-congress-jack-dorsey-sheryl-sandberg https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/5/17823280/facebook-twitter-...

duxup 8y ago
They can threaten but it depends on what it is they pass legally. That's not the same as law that makes it past a first amendment challenge.
- freeflight 8y ago
  Like the first amendment is supposed to prevent the NSA from domestic snooping? [0] All based on the patriot act which is still in effect to this day. That's the "beauty" about this: If you make the cause big enough, then barely anybody will mind the eroded civil rights. If you resist, you will be labeled an unpatriotic "terrorist sympathizer" who doesn't want to keep the country safe, a de-facto traitor to the cause. [0] https://www.eff.org/de/deeplinks/2017/11/nsa-internet-surveillance-under-section-702-violates-first-amendment https://www.eff.org/de/deeplinks/2017/11/nsa-internet-survei...
  - duxup 8y ago
    I don't think a first amendment challenge as far as what you say on social media goes has anything to do with a very non traditional legal argument that NSA collecting involves the first amendment.
    - freeflight 8y ago
      But there's still the, very traditional, legal argument of it also breaking the fourth [0], and that on a rather massive scale. Which the eef link also pointed out. No matter how you frame this, these constitutional boundaries are not as high as many US Americans like to pretend. Because if those boundaries are not enforced, they ain't worth the paper they are written on, leaving the door wide open to further erode these constitutional rights. [0] https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2671&context=facpub https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?a...

duxup 8y ago

They can threaten but it depends on what it is they pass legally. That's not the same as law that makes it past a first amendment challenge.

freeflight 8y ago
Like the first amendment is supposed to prevent the NSA from domestic snooping? [0] All based on the patriot act which is still in effect to this day. That's the "beauty" about this: If you make the cause big enough, then barely anybody will mind the eroded civil rights. If you resist, you will be labeled an unpatriotic "terrorist sympathizer" who doesn't want to keep the country safe, a de-facto traitor to the cause. [0] https://www.eff.org/de/deeplinks/2017/11/nsa-internet-surveillance-under-section-702-violates-first-amendment https://www.eff.org/de/deeplinks/2017/11/nsa-internet-survei...
- duxup 8y ago
  I don't think a first amendment challenge as far as what you say on social media goes has anything to do with a very non traditional legal argument that NSA collecting involves the first amendment.
  - freeflight 8y ago
    But there's still the, very traditional, legal argument of it also breaking the fourth [0], and that on a rather massive scale. Which the eef link also pointed out. No matter how you frame this, these constitutional boundaries are not as high as many US Americans like to pretend. Because if those boundaries are not enforced, they ain't worth the paper they are written on, leaving the door wide open to further erode these constitutional rights. [0] https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2671&context=facpub https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?a...