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If there’s one thing PornHub is good at, it’s generating positive PR for itself. I’m always very impressed how much of Reddit - often very skeptic all about cor

If there’s one thing PornHub is good at, it’s generating positive PR for itself. I’m always very impressed how much of Reddit - often very skeptic all about corporate manipulation- will roll over to have its tummy tickled by Pornhub.

MrMember 8y ago
Reddit has quite a few blind spots when it comes to obvious advertising. Disney properties get a free pass, for example.
- stcredzero 8y ago
  Both Pornhub and Disney have entertained and benefited many reddit users over the years. By that measure, haven't they earned that goodwill?
  - JakeTheAndroid 8y ago
    I'd argue, between the two companies, a significant portion of my free time over my life has been spent consuming their content.
- hombre_fatal 8y ago
  Advertising is so ubiquitous on Reddit that you almost do it a disservice by enumerating one example. But something that makes me roll my eyes the hardest is when an indie dev makes a single post to /r/gaming and the gamers complain about advertising. As if that subreddit isn't one constant advertisement for the top three games out at one moment. But just launder your ads and gamers eat it up. A dev posting their own content for once should be some of the most welcomed content. It's usually accompanied by Q&A and insights into the design process, the rare opportunity to actually talk to the creator of a game on that subreddit. Sad to see so many people attack it because it's just obvious advertisement. Something seems very miscalibrated.
  - EnFinlay 8y ago
    > A dev posting their own content for once should be some of the most welcomed content. It's usually accompanied by Q&A and insights into the design process, the rare opportunity to actually talk to the creator of a game on that subreddit. Sad to see so many people attack it because it's just obvious advertisement. I disagree with this. There are thousands of Indie developers out there trying to win the game programming lottery, and the main tool at their disposal is posting on sites like reddit or spamming on twitter. The result is that most of this content is low quality and of little interest to the broader gaming community. To put it differently, for every Vlambeer there are legions producing low quality spam that no one wants to see.
- kartan 8y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/hailcorporate https://www.reddit.com/r/hailcorporate started to gain some momentum and was killed fast. My guess is that the professional community, people that earn money manipulating/contributing paid-content to Reddit, is quite big. Or, at least, their impact is really big. Most people are just readers and Reddit professionals have time, motivation and knowledge to game the system. I have fun reading Reddit. And I read it very often. But, I do not trust all the enthusiasm about any movie/service/app or similar that the community generates. It is usually over the top and not very useful to actually get a good idea of the quality of such a product. I think that as a society we need to develop new mechanisms to deal with the situation. Probably regulation is one of them. But, for people to able to understand that not everything in the internet is true is also important. It will take time, people still think that reality shows are real, but I think that is feasible.
  - zaksoup 8y ago
    > [...] and was killed fast. I'm /r/OutOfTheLoop... what happened that Hail Corporate was killed?
    - jjulius 8y ago
      It appears to be open, the most recent post was 27 minutes ago. I'm not sure what OP is referencing.
      - ryder9 8y ago
        they're prone to making conspiracies, a lot of r/conspiracy type people there
    - kartan 8y ago
      > what happened that Hail Corporate was killed? As has happened with other subs, it began to be full of extreme opinions on one side and the reasonable posts were downvoted in the other. So, you end up with a toxic environment where it is difficult to have a rational conversation. I am really grateful for the moderation done in Hacker News. I have seen also that kind of strategy tried here. Controversial posts being promoted to the main page and fake extreme opinions show up in the comments. But, the post is flagged a later removed. That stops the anger to spread to real users.
- mrhappyunhappy 8y ago
  Reddit is one of the easiest places to game because you just have to spend a few minutes skimming through topics to see what that sub will respond to well, then play wolf in sheep’s skin.
Hamuko 8y ago
Hey, it's porn. It basically sells itself.
DisruptiveDave 8y ago
I always giggle at the concept that Reddit is anti-corporate, because they are the easiest people to advertise to if you do it correctly. Generally speaking, they already pre-assemble into groups that are very often themed by patronage to the Corporate Gods (marvel, GoT, video games, whatever), and it becomes their entire identity.
- Consultant32452 8y ago
  Yesterday Youtube switched me over to this model. On the home page now it primarily recommends subscribing to "topics" rather than individual channels. For example, I regularly look up recipes on Youtube, so it has suggested I subscribe to the "cooking" topic as opposed to Alton Brown, Tasty, etc. I have two "modes" though which I use Youtube. The first is searching for the answer to a specific question such as how to change the radiator on my car or a good blueberry pie recipe. The second is I might enjoy a particular "personality" like Joe Rogan or Jimmy Dore. I don't want to subscribe to car/cooking topics. Nor do I want to subscribe to MMA, general politics, or general comedy. This new model doesn't work for me. I wonder if I will be converted eventually.
  - robocat 8y ago
    The new topic sounds more like watching a TV channel (and existing "channels" are like individual TV shows?) If topics were like radio stations for videos or music (i.e. genre based topics), I would use that. I generally use YouTube as a reference book, where I look up some information. The exception is music, where I treat it more like a radio station.
  - r3bl 8y ago
    I found out recently that four of top six "channels" on YouTube (ranked by the number of subscribers), are actually topics: music, gaming, movies, and sports. https://socialblade.com/youtube/top/100/mostsubscribed https://socialblade.com/youtube/top/100/mostsubscribed
  - tatami 8y ago
    These YouTube topics are hilarious, I regularly get the recommendation for the "Pets" topic filled with cooking videos. But content-wise, it does not feel much different than the usual "recommended videos" section.
jklinger410 8y ago
Ala Wendy's social media. It only works with a certain demo that's very loud on the internet, but boy does it work.
a1369209993 8y ago
I think it's same phenomenon that benefitted Google pre-turning-evil. Redditors - and most other netizens - hate corporations for their actions and shared values, so if you make a big show of shitting all over one stereotypical corporate value (pandering to moral guardians or being evil in general), people are much more likely to belive you when you claim (or imply) that you don't care about other corporate values. There's some overcorrection due to wishful thinking and overestimating the difficulty of lying, but the underlying reasoning is mostly valid.

MrMember 8y ago

Reddit has quite a few blind spots when it comes to obvious advertising. Disney properties get a free pass, for example.

stcredzero 8y ago
Both Pornhub and Disney have entertained and benefited many reddit users over the years. By that measure, haven't they earned that goodwill?
- JakeTheAndroid 8y ago
  I'd argue, between the two companies, a significant portion of my free time over my life has been spent consuming their content.
hombre_fatal 8y ago
Advertising is so ubiquitous on Reddit that you almost do it a disservice by enumerating one example. But something that makes me roll my eyes the hardest is when an indie dev makes a single post to /r/gaming and the gamers complain about advertising. As if that subreddit isn't one constant advertisement for the top three games out at one moment. But just launder your ads and gamers eat it up. A dev posting their own content for once should be some of the most welcomed content. It's usually accompanied by Q&A and insights into the design process, the rare opportunity to actually talk to the creator of a game on that subreddit. Sad to see so many people attack it because it's just obvious advertisement. Something seems very miscalibrated.
- EnFinlay 8y ago
  > A dev posting their own content for once should be some of the most welcomed content. It's usually accompanied by Q&A and insights into the design process, the rare opportunity to actually talk to the creator of a game on that subreddit. Sad to see so many people attack it because it's just obvious advertisement. I disagree with this. There are thousands of Indie developers out there trying to win the game programming lottery, and the main tool at their disposal is posting on sites like reddit or spamming on twitter. The result is that most of this content is low quality and of little interest to the broader gaming community. To put it differently, for every Vlambeer there are legions producing low quality spam that no one wants to see.
kartan 8y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/hailcorporate https://www.reddit.com/r/hailcorporate started to gain some momentum and was killed fast. My guess is that the professional community, people that earn money manipulating/contributing paid-content to Reddit, is quite big. Or, at least, their impact is really big. Most people are just readers and Reddit professionals have time, motivation and knowledge to game the system. I have fun reading Reddit. And I read it very often. But, I do not trust all the enthusiasm about any movie/service/app or similar that the community generates. It is usually over the top and not very useful to actually get a good idea of the quality of such a product. I think that as a society we need to develop new mechanisms to deal with the situation. Probably regulation is one of them. But, for people to able to understand that not everything in the internet is true is also important. It will take time, people still think that reality shows are real, but I think that is feasible.
- zaksoup 8y ago
  > [...] and was killed fast. I'm /r/OutOfTheLoop... what happened that Hail Corporate was killed?
  - jjulius 8y ago
    It appears to be open, the most recent post was 27 minutes ago. I'm not sure what OP is referencing.
    - ryder9 8y ago
      they're prone to making conspiracies, a lot of r/conspiracy type people there
  - kartan 8y ago
    > what happened that Hail Corporate was killed? As has happened with other subs, it began to be full of extreme opinions on one side and the reasonable posts were downvoted in the other. So, you end up with a toxic environment where it is difficult to have a rational conversation. I am really grateful for the moderation done in Hacker News. I have seen also that kind of strategy tried here. Controversial posts being promoted to the main page and fake extreme opinions show up in the comments. But, the post is flagged a later removed. That stops the anger to spread to real users.
mrhappyunhappy 8y ago
Reddit is one of the easiest places to game because you just have to spend a few minutes skimming through topics to see what that sub will respond to well, then play wolf in sheep’s skin.

Hamuko 8y ago

Hey, it's porn. It basically sells itself.

DisruptiveDave 8y ago

I always giggle at the concept that Reddit is anti-corporate, because they are the easiest people to advertise to if you do it correctly. Generally speaking, they already pre-assemble into groups that are very often themed by patronage to the Corporate Gods (marvel, GoT, video games, whatever), and it becomes their entire identity.

Consultant32452 8y ago
Yesterday Youtube switched me over to this model. On the home page now it primarily recommends subscribing to "topics" rather than individual channels. For example, I regularly look up recipes on Youtube, so it has suggested I subscribe to the "cooking" topic as opposed to Alton Brown, Tasty, etc. I have two "modes" though which I use Youtube. The first is searching for the answer to a specific question such as how to change the radiator on my car or a good blueberry pie recipe. The second is I might enjoy a particular "personality" like Joe Rogan or Jimmy Dore. I don't want to subscribe to car/cooking topics. Nor do I want to subscribe to MMA, general politics, or general comedy. This new model doesn't work for me. I wonder if I will be converted eventually.
- robocat 8y ago
  The new topic sounds more like watching a TV channel (and existing "channels" are like individual TV shows?) If topics were like radio stations for videos or music (i.e. genre based topics), I would use that. I generally use YouTube as a reference book, where I look up some information. The exception is music, where I treat it more like a radio station.
- r3bl 8y ago
  I found out recently that four of top six "channels" on YouTube (ranked by the number of subscribers), are actually topics: music, gaming, movies, and sports. https://socialblade.com/youtube/top/100/mostsubscribed https://socialblade.com/youtube/top/100/mostsubscribed
- tatami 8y ago
  These YouTube topics are hilarious, I regularly get the recommendation for the "Pets" topic filled with cooking videos. But content-wise, it does not feel much different than the usual "recommended videos" section.

jklinger410 8y ago

Ala Wendy's social media. It only works with a certain demo that's very loud on the internet, but boy does it work.

a1369209993 8y ago

I think it's same phenomenon that benefitted Google pre-turning-evil. Redditors - and most other netizens - hate corporations for their actions and shared values, so if you make a big show of shitting all over one stereotypical corporate value (pandering to moral guardians or being evil in general), people are much more likely to belive you when you claim (or imply) that you don't care about other corporate values. There's some overcorrection due to wishful thinking and overestimating the difficulty of lying, but the underlying reasoning is mostly valid.