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Assuming you are wondering why they don't create a non-porn video site, the reason is that these sites live off ad revenue, and mainstream advertisers don't wan

Assuming you are wondering why they don't create a non-porn video site, the reason is that these sites live off ad revenue, and mainstream advertisers don't want their brand associated with porn.

JohnFen 7y ago
If that's so ironclad, then how do porn video sites stay in business? Advertising is not the only way to generate revenue, and even if they want to go the advertising route, there are non-mainstream advertisers that may be interested.
- djsumdog 7y ago
  A lot of these site (like RedTube and such) originally just posted videos and straight up violated copyright claims until they got DMCA takedowns. Eventually they started workout out deals with the studio for low-quality version and clips, sharing revenue for people who clicked through to buy full or HD versions. Then eventually the big studios just started buying the toob sites and cut out the middle. Most of them serve a subset of studio content or clips. Tumblr's limited video size/length really helped contribute to this model. Most people watch the clips, but the people who buy can get sucked into a lot of hidden subscriptions they forget to uncheck, or even direct up-selling they'll intentionally select.
  - true_religion 7y ago
    Actually it was the reverse, the MindGeek guys started buying out paysites, then studios after devaluing the content via their free tube.
- freewilly1040 7y ago
  Porn video sites stay in business by not competing with YouTube, accommodating content and advertisers that YouTube doesn't want. What kind of content are you or the grandparent commenter looking for this theoretical new site to host?
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    > What kind of content are you or the grandparent commenter looking for this theoretical new site to host? I mentioned it in a different comment: I miss the content that YouTube used to have before they started punishing the stuff that advertisers objected to (through demonetization and refusal to recommend them). Far too many YouTube channels now are clearly walking on eggshells and being very careful about what they say and do. It makes the videos less interesting and informative and more like traditional broadcast TV. There are still channels that don't sweat demonetization at all, and those tend to be the only ones I watch anymore, but they're getting few and far between.
    - nkkollaw 7y ago
      So true. I keep seeing vodeos where the host censors even remotely-triggering words and sentences.

Assuming you are wondering why they don't create a non-porn video site, the reason is that these sites live off ad revenue, and mainstream advertisers don't want their brand associated with porn.

JohnFen 7y ago

If that's so ironclad, then how do porn video sites stay in business? Advertising is not the only way to generate revenue, and even if they want to go the advertising route, there are non-mainstream advertisers that may be interested.

djsumdog 7y ago
A lot of these site (like RedTube and such) originally just posted videos and straight up violated copyright claims until they got DMCA takedowns. Eventually they started workout out deals with the studio for low-quality version and clips, sharing revenue for people who clicked through to buy full or HD versions. Then eventually the big studios just started buying the toob sites and cut out the middle. Most of them serve a subset of studio content or clips. Tumblr's limited video size/length really helped contribute to this model. Most people watch the clips, but the people who buy can get sucked into a lot of hidden subscriptions they forget to uncheck, or even direct up-selling they'll intentionally select.
- true_religion 7y ago
  Actually it was the reverse, the MindGeek guys started buying out paysites, then studios after devaluing the content via their free tube.
freewilly1040 7y ago
Porn video sites stay in business by not competing with YouTube, accommodating content and advertisers that YouTube doesn't want. What kind of content are you or the grandparent commenter looking for this theoretical new site to host?
- JohnFen 7y ago
  > What kind of content are you or the grandparent commenter looking for this theoretical new site to host? I mentioned it in a different comment: I miss the content that YouTube used to have before they started punishing the stuff that advertisers objected to (through demonetization and refusal to recommend them). Far too many YouTube channels now are clearly walking on eggshells and being very careful about what they say and do. It makes the videos less interesting and informative and more like traditional broadcast TV. There are still channels that don't sweat demonetization at all, and those tend to be the only ones I watch anymore, but they're getting few and far between.
  - nkkollaw 7y ago
    So true. I keep seeing vodeos where the host censors even remotely-triggering words and sentences.