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> You are basically saying that free will is the same as non-determinism. No, I'm saying that determinism precludes free will. Free will is more than mere non
by winter_blue 7y ago
> You are basically saying that free will is the same as non-determinism.
No, I'm saying that determinism precludes free will.
Free will is more than mere non-determinism / randomness.
I believe that people have souls, and they have free will. I reject the notion that we are all a bunch of soulless machines.
I can't offer you a physics theorem that proves the existence of free will and souls, but to me, it is experientially self-evident.
- elcomet 7y ago> No, I'm saying that determinism precludes free will. > Free will is more than mere non-determinism / randomness. Yes, I even think that free will is not really related to the determinism / non-determinism of the universe, as I said earlier. Free will doesn't make sense in physics. That's why I don't agree that determinism precludes free will. You can define free will in an other way, that is compatible with determinism. That's my point of view, you can read more about it : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibilism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibilism. Your view is called 'Incompatibilism', ie determinism and free will are mutually incompatible. At the end, I think that most of it is a question of definition, but we can all agree that free will in a deterministic world is not the same as free will in a world where people have souls.