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Most non junior developers in the UK (edit: in London) are contractors which starts at about 250 gbp/day, but average is probably more like 600/day. Can easily

Most non junior developers in the UK (edit: in London) are contractors which starts at about 250 gbp/day, but average is probably more like 600/day. Can easily be as high as 1200 though. So a contractor with 5 or 6 years experience can easily make over 100k/annum if you knock off some time for holidays, pensions, gaps between contracts etc.

pm215 7y ago
Do you have a source for "most" here? Most of the senior devs I know are full-time non-contractors (though that is quite possibly just a property of my friend group and location (Cambridge)).
ErrantX 7y ago
That's not really true. Day rate for a decent SE contractor is about 400/500 (but ofc they don't get that, as mostly private contracting is rare). But the big thing I disagree with is "most"... the perm industry in the UK is strong!
- madeofpalk 7y ago
  > but ofc they don't get that, as mostly private contracting is rare Is it? I've been contracting in the UK (through my own limited company ofc) for the past two years, at the top end of your band, and had no impression that what I do is rare. I'm glad to see this thread actually, for my next gig I'll definitely push for more money.
  - C1sc0cat 7y ago
    Shure your really outside IR35 ?
    - madeofpalk 7y ago
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ to the best of my ability
  - ErrantX 7y ago
    Directly with the company in question? or through a resourcing firm? my experience (On the other end of that transaction) is that the former is rarer because working through a specialist contract placement firm (e.g. Spring) has various attractions to a company (albeit higher cost).
- ionised 7y ago
  Why do you say private contracting is rare in the UK? Every software company I've been to here is like 50% contractors.
  - ErrantX 7y ago
    Most companies will contract through a management firm than with the individual directly.
    - C1sc0cat 7y ago
      Not really in the UK - its mostly PLC or Umberella Companies for contractors. The fake contractor aka a body shop where you are a normal employee of some third party is not that common.
wdb 7y ago
£1200 per day? The max day rate for web development I have seen in London was £650/day but normally £550/day. You can also easily earn £90k as a perm in London.
- infinite8s 7y ago
  Finance is about double that.
- C1sc0cat 7y ago
  Depends almost 20 years ago in BT we paid that for a High end Oracle contractor. That day rate might be for a big four consultant 20 years ago it was around £900

pm215 7y ago

Do you have a source for "most" here? Most of the senior devs I know are full-time non-contractors (though that is quite possibly just a property of my friend group and location (Cambridge)).

ErrantX 7y ago

That's not really true. Day rate for a decent SE contractor is about 400/500 (but ofc they don't get that, as mostly private contracting is rare). But the big thing I disagree with is "most"... the perm industry in the UK is strong!

madeofpalk 7y ago
> but ofc they don't get that, as mostly private contracting is rare Is it? I've been contracting in the UK (through my own limited company ofc) for the past two years, at the top end of your band, and had no impression that what I do is rare. I'm glad to see this thread actually, for my next gig I'll definitely push for more money.
- C1sc0cat 7y ago
  Shure your really outside IR35 ?
  - madeofpalk 7y ago
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ to the best of my ability
- ErrantX 7y ago
  Directly with the company in question? or through a resourcing firm? my experience (On the other end of that transaction) is that the former is rarer because working through a specialist contract placement firm (e.g. Spring) has various attractions to a company (albeit higher cost).
ionised 7y ago
Why do you say private contracting is rare in the UK? Every software company I've been to here is like 50% contractors.
- ErrantX 7y ago
  Most companies will contract through a management firm than with the individual directly.
  - C1sc0cat 7y ago
    Not really in the UK - its mostly PLC or Umberella Companies for contractors. The fake contractor aka a body shop where you are a normal employee of some third party is not that common.

wdb 7y ago

£1200 per day? The max day rate for web development I have seen in London was £650/day but normally £550/day. You can also easily earn £90k as a perm in London.

infinite8s 7y ago
Finance is about double that.
C1sc0cat 7y ago
Depends almost 20 years ago in BT we paid that for a High end Oracle contractor. That day rate might be for a big four consultant 20 years ago it was around £900